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From: "Hol Wagner holpennywagner@msn.com [CBQ]" <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2016 16:02:41 +0000
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Louis:



That tank is nearly identical to the one employed by the C&S in Denver to hold locomotive fuel oil -- bunker C.  That C&S tank, erected in 1902 when the C&S planned to burn oil in its narrow gauge passenger power during the summer months, switching back to coal in the winter, sat unused for years after the program was quickly abandoned with only two little Moguls actually converted.  When the C&S again began using oil for fuel in 1913, it was the Wyoming Division that was first impacted, and a similar tank as erected at Cheyenne in 1925-26 when the new roundhouse there was built.  The C&S copied Santa Fe tanks with this design.  The NorthWestern began converting the locomotives of its western divisions to burn oil in 1906, using oil from the Salt Creek field in Wyoming, and they may very well have copied the C&S tank design, which itself was a copy.  The attached image shows the Denver tank, which had a conical roof form much of its liefe bet later received a flat metal plate roof.


Hol




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July 19, 2016
 
Hol - Yes, I'll go along with the roundhouse belonging to the Northwestern/Omaha Road. If true, then Council Bluffs or may be Sioux City, IA, come to mind. That LARGE steel tank still makes me wonder.... It's certainly not for water. That would mean it was for diesel fuel. Yet, not a diesel in view. Such a LARGE tank for what appears to be a division point roundhouse. Hopefully, someone in this Group can pass to one of the C&NW groups and see if one of their members can ID. Thanks and best regards - Louis
 
Louis Zadnichek II
Fairhope, AL
 
In a message dated 7/18/2016 11:46:20 P.M. Central Daylight Time, CBQ@yahoogroups.com writes:


Louis:


I have to agree that it's really questionable if this is actually a Q facility at all.  The boxcar and steel gon beside the powerhouse are neither one quite right for Q cars, the coal chute doesn't match any I have drawings for (and that includes all that were around in 1952), and that appears to be a triple hopper on the coal chute delivery track while the Q used gons and twin hoppers to deliver company coal.  To me the first locomotive in line looks like a USRA Mike, but it's really hard to tell.  All the other Q negs from the group this person has listed on eBay are from Nebraska -- Lincoln, Fairmont and the Nebraska City branch.  I'm not familiar with NorthWestern/Omaha Road facilities along the Missouri, but I think that's a more likely road than the Q.


Hol




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July 18, 2016
 
Hol - Doesn't look "Q" to me. The stored steam locomotive in the distance at far right looks like a C&NW 0-6-0 to me. If indeed Q, then maybe St. Joseph, MO, where the roundhouse was fairly close to the Missouri River. But, that LARGE steel fuel oil tank just doesn't look "Q" to me. Best Regards - Louis
 
Louis Zadnichek II
Fairhope, AL
 
In a message dated 7/18/2016 12:08:02 P.M. Central Daylight Time, CBQ@yahoogroups.com writes:
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Can anyone in the group identify this Burlington roundhouse beside a large river -- though not as large as the Mississippi.  I'm at a loss to identify it.  Of brick construction, it has 14 exhaust jacks and therefore 14 stalls.  That's a brick power plant and machine shop building adjacent to it, and there's a Q standard 50,000-gallon wooden water tank on steel supports, a large steel storage tank, possibly for fuel oil, and a big wooden coal chute in the distance, along with three possibly stored steam locomotives, though the coal chute is still active as there are hoppers on the delivery track.  The negative of this image is currently for sale on eBay, and it's supposedly taken in 1952.  Archie has confirmed that my first thought, Hannibal, is not correct, as, among other things, the roundhouse and river are both too small.  I have looked at roundhouse lists and there are very few possibilities.  I thought possibly Greybull, Wyo., but the Greybull River is on the other side of town from the roundhouse, which also is of wooden construction.  Gibson roundhouse at Omaha comes to mind, but it was also wooden and the coal chute is wrong, among other things.  I'm baffled; I'm hopeful one of you can identify it.


Hol



 



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