307/8 and 325/6 were initially used and dining/parlor cars.....they saw service on a variety of secondary trains that offered dining service and parlor car accommodations. Some that come to mind during the fifties - Coloradoan, #19/6 (when the Budd LW dining/parlor/obs were elsewhere), St.Louis/KC/Omaha trains, #2/15 (Chicago-Hannibal service), subbing on the overnight Zephyrs (Black Hawk, Ak-Sar-Ben, American Royal), Zephyr-Rocket. And others..... Very versatile cars. 325/6 are cars with older-style rectangular windows with sashes. 307/8 were fitted with sealed thermopane windows when rebuilt in the early fifties. All 4 ended up in aluminum paint....325/6 were shadowlined....not sure about 307/8 - always saw them in all aluminum. 325/6 were old enough to be in Pullman green pre-1952 or so. In time, the parlor seats were used as lounge seats to accommodate late night patrons seeking a beverage. Cars were arranged as follows.....kitchen/dining area/lavatory(2)/parlor (lounge)/vestibule. Both types of cars are available from NKP Car (kits). Very unique and very "Burlington"......ribbed clerestory roof with lots of vents, 6-wheel trucks, Trane a/c, "solarium-type" car end, etc.
Tom Schneid
P.S. NKP Car Co has a large number of accurate CB&Q HW car kits - see nkpcarco.comSent from my iPad
This is my first time responding to anything. I focus on Q passenger – primarily on the Chicago-Twin Cities line.
I am interested in the diner lounges 307-308 and 325-326. They were made from full diners. And it looks as though the vestibules were added. Can someone comment how these cars were used and why they were constructed?
I share a photo of one (326). I got the photo from a website that is now not active.
Doug Hosler
Wausau, WI
On 7/2/16, 10:37 AM, "danspachmd@gmail.com [CBQ]" <CBQ@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
I am beginning to build the NKP kit for the above car, which I remember well on the AK-SAR-BEN, as seen one morning at the CUS throat in the sixties as the train was being withdrawn to the yard for servicing. It was attention-getting with its wide windows and Venetian blinds, all down but open.
The kit is missing a center sill and there is no description, diagram, nor dimensions on which to scratch build one. I am presuming that the sill was apparently a flat girder or channel, and that the brake levers, etc. were mounted on the bottom surface (like freight cars). Am I correct? Does anyone know?
I have built a number of NKP HW car kits, and the resulting models can be stunning- and this is no exception.
I have also contacted Tom Shneid about this question.
Thank you-
Denny
Denny Anspach, MD
Okoboji, IA
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