Insert foot in mouth -- again. Someday I'm going to learn not to comment on a photo without the image in front of me. Looking at the photo, the train obviously has a baggage car -- with doors open in direct violation of operating rules. Looking at timetables
for the Depression era, all-stops locals 5 and 22 operating between Lincoln and McCook were shown during 1933 and 1934 as mixed trains, so I would bet that this is train 22 eastbound, flying white flags because as a mixed train it will certainly not adhere
to 22's schedule. It probably had no freight out of McCook this day, but will pick up cars along the route.
As for what's atop 2954's stack, I haven't seen anything quite like this before, either. But I think you're right; it's probably a ring with a fine steel mesh -- much heavier than screen, but small enough to trap the few sparks/cinders that made it that
far -- attached like a drum head, with the ring bolted to the stack. As you suggest, probably cobbled together in the McCook roundhouse.
I checked Corbin's collection to be sure he didn't take this photo himself or have a neg in his collection, but it's not there. There is a negative of 2954 at the Hannibal roundhouse in April 1932, and it does not have the stack modification and the engine
has its unmodified original tender with Ryan & Johnson coal "pusher" -- though with Commonwealth drop equalizer trucks replacing the originals. In the later photo the tender has been modified, with the Ryan & Johns tilting coal bunker removed and a standard
non-moveable coal bunker with higher sides welded in place. This work was probably done when the engine was shopped at West Burlington or Denver and reassigned to McCook, where the spark arrestor was then added.
Hol
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November 9, 2015
Hol - Thanks! I had a feeling the image was of a Lines West train. Can you further explain or comment upon the band around 2954's stack that I speculate is a cinder/spark arrestor of some kind. First time I've seen this, so
probably something the McCook roundhouse force cobbled together. I'd be interested if Leo can research his union documents and see if Lines East local passenger trains were ever run as extras with way cars as it was done way out on your end of the Q prior
to at least World War Two. Best Regards - Louis
Louis Zadnichek II
Fairhope, AL
In a message dated 11/9/2015 8:41:33 A.M. Central Standard Time, CBQ@yahoogroups.com writes:
I think Pete and Michael are closer than Leo. The 2954 was a McCook Division engine through the early 1930s, until it was converted into an oil-burner sometime between March and June 1935 and reassigned to the Lincoln Division.
Since it's a coal-burner in this photo and flying the white flags of an extra in a time when, out here on the west end, local passenger trains were often run as mixed trains with waycars on the rear (though obviously this is not a regular, scheduled train,
since it has no head-end equipment), my guess is an eastbound extra at the east end of McCook, where a road crossing over the tracks looks much like this one.
Hol
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Woodruff mwoodruff54@gmail.com [CBQ] <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>
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My knee jerk reaction was an eastbound train at Ravenna, NE.
msw
marion, ia
On Sun, Nov 8, 2015 at 3:55 PM,
qutlx1@aol.com [CBQ] <CBQ@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Louis,
Maybe it's my Aurora Division background, but I see three mains and two side tracks. Reminds me of just east of Naperville depot on the North side where the lead tracks for Kroehlers were located. That would explain the Pacific
but I can't explain the Waycar.
If so this is westbound train.
Leo
November 8, 2015
Group - I've attached an interesting Q image that is unidentified. Can any one tell us what's going on? Note the three "elderly" passenger coaches along with the way car on the rear end. The baggage car looks nearly loaded
with crates, or could those be partitions of some kind? Also, there's some type of unusual spark arrestor "cap" on the stack. White flags appear to be displayed on the locomotive. Lastly, a Class K ten-wheeler or Class R prairie would've been more than enough
for this short train. Wonder why it rated No. 2954, a big Class S-3 pacific? If you enlarge the image, there doesn't appear to be any Burlington Route herald on the tender. Could this be a mixed train without freight cars on some Lines West branch line, or
some long forgotten agricultural extra? The image appears to have been posed with the train stopped. Perhaps, someone in the engineer's family took the original photograph. A lot of questions here to be answered. Comments appreciated. Best Regards - Louis
Louis Zadnichek II
Fairhope, AL
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