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From: "Ray Bedard tczephyr@hotmail.com [CBQ]" <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2015 09:03:47 -0700
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Louis, I agree with you. Living in Berwyn and just graduated from high school in 1961, I spent many Sundays watching and photographing 4960 and 5632. I did ride behind 5632 once and regret I never took the opportunity to take a ride behind 4960. My favorite photo is one I took when it stopped in Berwyn for an excursion. It is of the fireman's side with no one in the photo.

4960 was not a beautiful engine, nor was it the ugly duckling. It was a handsome engine, with very distinct details. Too bad that the GCR botched the engine the way that they did. But on the other hand, at least the old lady is still running under the same engine number and continues to be refereed to as an X-CB&Q engine. 

We do not have any Q operating steam engines anywhere else. 

Could have had 5632 operating today, but that damn Louis W Menk guy killed steam on the Q in 1963, sold it to Richard Jensen who let it slip through his figures to the torch.

As for restoring 4960 back to its original appearance, highly unlikely.

Ray Bedard
San Jose CA


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Date: Thu, 27 Aug 2015 11:24:42 -0400
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August 27, 2015
 
Rupert - Purist that I am, the "chop shop" treatment of 4960 when rebuilt by the Grand Canyon Railway should go down in the annals of railroad steam locomotive preservation as a total abomination. The locomotive's appearance was ruined under the guise of "improving" it mechanically. I've attached an image of the 4960 that I so well remember taken at Beardstown, IL, early in its fan trip career on May 21, 1961. I can only hope that at some later date 4960 is returned to its original appearance. Best Regards - Louis
 
Louis Zadnichek II
Fairhope, AL 
 
In a message dated 8/27/2015 2:17:41 A.M. Central Daylight Time, CBQ@yahoogroups.com writes:


 

Grand Canyon to run steam excursion as part of ‘Man vs. Machine’ race

WILLIAMS, Arizona – The Grand Canyon Railway is firing up its former Chicago, Burlington & Quincy 2-8-2 for a special excursion next month that coincides with the unique “Man vs. Machine” bicycle race. On Sept. 26, Grand Canyon No. 4960 will lead the train from Williams to the Grand Canyon with two coaches and a café car. There will be no diesel helper. Along the way, the train will stop for at least one photo run-by. Upon arriving at the south rim of the canyon, shortly after the regular excursion, the steam run will take part in the “Man vs. Machine” bike race in which the 1923 Baldwin will take on dozens of bikers in a 54-mile race. Railroad officials say it has been more than 25 years since the race was held. Round-trip tickets are available for the train that will depart Williams at 8 a.m. The train will arrive at the south rim at 11:30 a.m. and return back at 12:30 p.m. The race officially begins at 1 p.m. Tickets are $75 for adults and $45 for kids. For more information, go to www.thetrain.com  and www.grandcanyonracing.com.

Unfortunately, I am unable to take the trip!

Rupert Gamlen
Auckland NZ





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