Louis: The date of the shot of 2952 in Denver cannot be 1927, as at that time the engine was still a coal-burner; more likely it's 1937 after conversion to oil in early 1937 for use on the Casper Division and trains 29-30 down to Denver, where the photo was taken at the C&S Seventh Street facilities, coupled to a Santa Fe Pacific (though the engine was briefly assigned to Lincoln after its conversion. But here's something really strange about 2952: an Otto Perry photo of it on a passenger train out of Omaha in September 1929 ( http://cdm16079.contentdm.oclc.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/p15330coll22/id/46009/rec/2) shows it still as a coal-burner but with a Delta type B cast steel trailing truck. Additional Perry photos of it in 1938 ( http://cdm16079.contentdm.oclc.org/cdm/singleitem/collection/p15330coll22/id/42902/rec/1) show it now as an oil-burner and once again with the Rushton trailing truck with which it was built. Never heard of a Delta B being removed after it was applied. Strange. Hol
To: cbq@yahoogroups.com From: CBQ@yahoogroups.com Date: Mon, 30 Mar 2015 14:18:45 -0400 Subject: [CBQ] Elesco Equipped S-3 [2 Attachments]
[Attachment(s) from LZadnichek@aol.com included below]
March 30, 2015
Mike and Ken - I thought I didn't have any images of an Elesco feed
water heater equipped Class S-3 4-6-2 type locomotive, but I do have one. I'm
attaching an image of oil burning No. 2957 taken at Denver, CO, in 1927.
According to the Corbin book, 2957 was built by Baldwin in 1915 and was sold for
scrap in December 1951. That's a Santa Fe locomotive that it's coupled to at the
engine servicing area. For comparison, I'm also attaching an image of
Worthington feed water heater equipped Class S-3 No. 2958 taken in 1940 at an
unknown location. The Cordin book reports the coal burning 2958 was also built
by Baldwin in 1915, but survived two years longer being sold for scrap
in October 1953. Whether Elesco or Worthington equipped, the Class
S-3's were handsome and powerful Q passenger locomotives. Best Regards -
Louis
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March 26, 2015
Mike and Ken - The FW&D 550 series Pacifics could also be found
powering freight trains near the end of their long service careers. The attached
image shows No. 556 with a freight at Irving, TX, in 1951. Unfortunately, I do
not have any broadside images of the engineer's and fireman's sides to use for
kitbashing or modeling purposes. Perhaps, another Group member does. I do not
have my copy of Hol's "Colorado Road" book handy, but, according to the
Corbin book, No. 556 and its sister No. 557 were both constructed by Baldwin in
1922 to Q Class S-3 specifications and were the last two Pacific types acquired
by the Colorado Road. Also, whereas both Nos. 556 and 557 were equipped with
Elesco feed water heaters giving them the heavy "beetle brow" look, I can't
recall seeing an image of a Q Class S-3 equipped with anything but a Worthington
feed water heater, although the Corbin book indicates some did have Elescos. I'm
not a modeler, but agree with you both that the Q Class S-3 Pacific type would
be a good subject for some company to produce as a scale model. They were a fine
looking and, by all accounts, a well designed steam passenger
locomotive up until dieselization forever silenced their whistles and exhausts.
Best Regards - Louis
Louis Zadnichek II
Fairhope, AL
In a message dated 3/26/2015 12:44:51 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
CBQ@yahoogroups.com writes:
Thank
you Ken. I remember seeing those in/around Dallas in the 40s and 50s I think.
The smoke box "face" is unforgettable for a small boy who loved trains and
usually saw them up close waiting to the T&P Eagle bringing my grandmother
back from Jefferson. Her father had been the T&P station agent in Marshall
until he died in 1920.
I could do with a "close to" model, but if it
didn't have that characteristic smoke box front it just wouldn't
work.
Mike Thomasson
Austin
---- "Kenneth Martin
kmartin537@surewest.net [CBQ]" <CBQ@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
According to Hol's "Colorado Road" FW&D 551-555 were built to the Q S-3
design. These have not been done. The only Q pacific modeled was a LMB
S-2.
>
> According to the book before the S-3 copies were
authorized the USRA authorized five USRA light pacifics. That was
rescinded and the S-3 copies were authorized. So I suppose you could use a
USRA light pacific as a what if.
>
> Ken Martin
>
>
>
> On Mar 23, 2015, at 3:01 PM, mthomasson@austin.rr.com [CBQ]
wrote:
>
> > Was this class of locomotives ever offered for
sale in HO, brass or otherwise?
> >
> >
> > Mike
Thomasson
> > Austin, Texas
>
> > ----
"LZadnichek@aol.com [CBQ]" <CBQ@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
>> March 23, 2015
> >>
> >> Group - To give
those members who are not all that familiar with Q subsid
>
>> iary FW&D and its Texas Zephyr, I've attached an image of a 550
series FW&D
> >> 4-6-2 type powering the train at Fort
Worth, TX, in 1953.
> >>
> >> Louis Zadnichek
II
> >> Fairhope, AL
>
>
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