March 9, 2015
Hol - What absolutely remarkable images of 1525 that you're shared with the
Group! I had no idea that the Q had "beautified" a number of Class G-3
locomotives in the 1930s for use as dedicated passenger station switch
engines. Thank you very much for letting us all know. Also, much appreciate your
ID'ing the 1506 image as definitely having been taken at St. Joseph. Then,
the large building in the far background has to be the Quaker Oats mill. That
settles that! Best Regards - Louis
Louis Zadnichek II
Fairhope, AL
In a message dated 3/9/2015 9:01:58 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
CBQ@yahoogroups.com writes:
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I should have checked the Corbin negative collection before
saying anything! Because when I finally did, I found that Corbin had an
original negative of the shot of 1506 -- which he did not take, but which he
received from one of the many people with whom he traded negatives and
prints. The view was taken at St. Joseph, Mo., on Aug. 11, 1932, but the
photographer remains unidentified. Attached are the three
views I have of the 1525 at Omaha, one taken the day it was turned out
(as I understand it, at Plattsmouth in the summer of 1930), another in service
at Omaha in the early 1930s, and a third as it passed through Chariton, Iowa,
on Jan. 18, 1933, on the way east to Eola for scrapping. It certainly
didn't last long all dolled up! Hol
To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com From: CBQ@yahoogroups.com Date: Sun, 8 Mar 2015
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March 8,
2015
Pete and Hol - Having reviewed both your Emails, the No. 1506 image might
well have been taken in Kansas City. I've attached an image taken in 1931 of
Class S-3 No. 2955 adjacent to what I believe is the Kansas City Terminal
roundhouse. As I recall, the roundhouse was located in the "Flats" area
between the Missouri River and the downtown on high ground. Further, as I
understand, the KC Terminal was where Q and other railroads' passenger steam
locomotives were serviced between runs. If you note the roundhouse smoke
jacks, they look to be the same in both images. I agree with Hol
that such a "fancy" switcher would've been assigned to Kansas City and not St.
Joseph. However, at that time, St. Joseph was a Division Point and
the roundhouse there had a back shop. I would speculate that No. 1525 was
"beautified" at the St. Joseph roundhouse and then transferred to Kansas City
to switch the Q's share of the Union Station. What the large building is in
the background of the No. 1506 image I still have no idea. But, Pete's mention
of Quaker Oaks in St. Joseph brought back some memories of cab rides as a
child on one of the Q's Baldwin diesel switchers that switched the mill
interchange. Dad was train master in St. Joseph in the early 1950s. I
can also remember a cab ride on a steam switcher there where I got
to toss lumps of coal into the firebox while the fireman remarked,
somewhat to my dad's ire, how it was "hot as HELL in
there." The things you remember some 60 years later..... Best
Regards - Louis
Louis Zadnichek II
Fairhope, AL
In a message dated 3/7/2015 12:02:30 P.M. Central Standard Time,
CBQ@yahoogroups.com writes:
Louis & Hol
When I first looked at this one I immediately thought of St.
Joe....that looks like the Quaker Oats building in the background, but I'm
not sure of the direction the camera is pointing...The St. Joe Roundhouse
opened to the south and Quaker Oats is to the east. The
distance would be about right, but if the camera is looking west then the
large building in the background is to the west which would make it NOT St.
Joe.
If it's KC that might be the KCPL light building, which would be north
of the Union Station..If it's a roundhouse in KC it would have to be the
KCT's and that might make it in the right direction.
Ain't this stuff fun to think about
Pete
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Louis: This one came as a surprise to me , too,
when I saw it on eBay. I was aware of the 1525 similarly dolled up for
use as the Omaha depot switcher, but this one was a shocker. Checking
assignment sheets, it was always assigned to the St. Joe Division and thus
would have been either the St. Joe or Kansas City depot switcher. And
considering the generally lower class of the passenger trains that passed
through St. Joe, my money would be on Kansas City. Such switchers
were used where there was direct competition in the same facility (or, as in
the case of Omaha, directly adjacent and plainly visible). UP, of
course, had a similarly outfitted switcher at Omaha. And there was,
for a time, a dolled up G-10 assigned to depot duties at Denver, while UP
also had a fancy 0-6-0 here. Hol
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March 6,
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Group - In the attached image, note how Class G-3 No. 1506
has been all "dolled-up" with polished cylinder head covers, polished rods,
polished or painted trim and gloss paint job. Could this have been for
use as a passenger station switch engine? What a beautiful locomotive! Can
anyone identify the large building in the background or brick
roundhouse so the location can be known. This image is undated, but the
Corbin book records Havelock-built No. 1506 as having been retired
in October 1934. Best Regards - Louis
Louis Zadnichek II
Fairhope, AL
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