From a message posted Sept 10, 2012, during a discussion on this subject in the archives:
If you look real close under magnification, you will see that the B unit rads are curved with the roof line. The A units have the raised flat rads and are phase I. The Bs had rads similar to the E7s. Now in Holcks vol I, page 71, you can clearly see the phase II rads on both A units. In vol II, page 34 both photos show phase I As, and clearly show the A and B differences. The bottom is a I and II set. If you look at the pilots and buffers of those two lead units and compare them to the top photo on page 35, you will see the other difference between a I and II A unit
Gordon Smith
On Fri, Mar 06, 2015 at 11:52 AM, William Barber clipperw@gmail.com [CBQ] wrote:
Charlie,
Doing a quick check, the only photo of the top of an E5B that I can find is on p. 103 of Zimmerman's Burlington Zephyrs book showing an A-B-A E5 consist backing into Union Station in Chicago. It is not great because it really isn't close enough to reveal the fine detail, but it does provide a general view. In that view, comparing the B unit with the E5A leading it, they look to be very similar in roof detail. I will keep looking. A lot of photos have been taken from the Roosevelt Road bridge so it would seem that someone must have taken a high level photo of these unique locomotives.
Anther possibility might be a top view of an E4 or an E6B. They may have been similar since they were built in the same general timeframe. Of course, the first group of E5A's had different roof details than the second group.
Bill Barber Gravois Mills, MO Thu Mar 5, 2015 3:45 pm (PST) . Posted by:Speaking of taking pictures from bridges...
Anybody ever get an overhead shot of the roof of an E-5B?
The E5-Bs had different radiator vents than either the Phase I or Phase II
E-5A units (for what reason may be lost to history). None of the shots I
have seen show enough detail to determine what was going on up there...it
may be just chicken wire over the vents but it would seem logical that they
would need some sort of regulation of the air flow just as much as the
A
units.
I would like to correct scale drawings for the units just in case I can
convince somebody to make the A&B units in HO and Kato the B unit in N..
Thanks,
Charlie Vlk
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