September 29, 2014
Hol - Thank you sincerely for further identifying the image of 5143 in
Denver. Now, as it's said, we know the rest of the story. The Corbin book
reports that 5143 was sold for scrap in December 1957, so it's comforting to
know that the O-1-A went out in style as a DUT switcher before her flue
time ran out. This is the only image I've ever seen of both Q and UP steam
power side-by-side. Perhaps, this thread will locate an image or two of the
CZ being switched by steam in Denver. Best Regards - Louis
Louis Zadnichek II
Fairhope, AL
Louis:
I have seen photos of the 0-6-0s with the CZ
here in Denver, but I don't have any such shots in my collection. And
yes, the attached view does show the 5143 as the DUT (Denver Union Terminal)
switcher, steaming past UP 812, which sits on track 11, waiting to take
No. 57, the Cheyenne local, north one day around 1954. That's
DUT's office/shop building behind the two locomotives; it would have
a tower added in 1959 to replace the old interlocking towers, A and B, at each
end of the depot trackage.
Hol
To:
CBQ@yahoogroups.comFrom:
CBQ@yahoogroups.comDate: Mon, 29 Sep 2014
11:20:54 -0400
Subject: Re: [CBQ] Re: California Zephyr in
Denver
September 29,
2014
Hol - Would that mean the CZ was "steam-powered" for a mile or two
through Denver while being wyed? If so, does anyone have an image of a G-10 or
O-1-A with the CZ in tow?
Here is an undated image of O-1-A No. 5143 posed along side a UP
4-8-4 in Denver. I assume 5143 is switching the Denver Union Station that day.
Best Regards - Louis
Louis Zadnichek II
Fairhope, AL
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You're quite right about the way switching was done into the
1960s, and it may be worth noting that the regular switcher assigned to work
the Denver coachyard and Denver Union Depot was, until 1954, a G-10 0-6-0,
with an O-1-A Mike substituting at times and working occasionally into
1955.
Hol
To:
CBQ@yahoogroups.comFrom:
CBQ@yahoogroups.comDate: Sun, 28 Sep
2014 22:38:09 +0000
Subject: Re: [CBQ] Re: California Zephyr in
Denver
Because both the ex-Q and D&RGW lines leave to the north of Union
Station, the California Zephyr has always been wyed at Denver.
Originally, under the Q, the switcher for the westbound train was attached
to the rear of the train after it passed through the trainwash, leaving the
inbound Q power to the southwest of the yard to then be moved to the engine
facility for servicing. After the train was platformed in the station,
a second switcher might couple to the baggage car, pulling it off to
retrieve a Rio Grande coach, before coupling both cars back onto the front
of the train. The Rio Grande power would then be coupled on, allowing
the train to proceed north and then west.
In the 60's, probabl y
to save costs, and because the Q was adding intermediate head end traffic to
Denver (shown in the photo), a single front-coupled switcher did the honors
of moving the train through the station. Amtrak currently uses the
train's road locomotives for this purpose.
Chuck: Sure, you're welcome to use it. Hol
To:
CBQ@yahoogroups.comFrom:
CBQ@yahoogroups.comDate: Wed, 24 Sep 2014 10:30:46 -0700
Subject:
[CBQ] Re: California Zephyr in Denver
Thanks, Hol, with your permission, I
will re-post your reply with that photo.