Bob Webber's response to the CZ dome sleeper question as posed to the D&RGW Yahoo Group has perhaps more factual information than anything that has appeared here. Hol
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There were several proposals, none came to
fruition.
The original specifications lists a duplex car as
well.
Lots of variations, but nothing serious. The NP cars
were
thought about, as they were the only non-obs dome
sleepers (from Budd) -
but they were expensive, and there was no need for
them. 48 dome
seats for the sleeping car passengers were deemed
enough.
What they needed was less roomettes and more rooms -
reason for the
6-5s. A 4-4-4 would have multiple issues for the
consortium, not
the least being more roomettes. The 4-4-4s did operate
with
CZ cars on the Ak-Sar-Ben, and I have seen one consist
on the CZ - but
not a usual thing.
The issue, regardless of specific accommodations
remained the best
utilization of the space - rooms under the domes were
not ideal, and the
space allowed wasn't enough for the capacity they needed
(or the type of
accommodation). There was also a dome-diner concept
floated,
that didn't pan out either. GM was very influential on
the CZ
and the railroads involved, but the ToT was not very
efficient in terms
of utilization of space - the CZ cars were far
superior. And...when
it came down to it - there was a lot of open space
available for sleeping
car passengers - WP saw no need for more expenditures,
but then neither
did the D&RGW or CB&Q - beyond the obvious need
for an all room
car.
At 06:39 PM 9/1/2014, beaumec39@gmail.com [DRGW] wrote:
Gents,
Has anyone come across any mention of possible
dome-sleepers for the
CZ?
I know that the CB&Q-D&RGW-WP went for the
6DB-5Cpt.
I came across proposed floor plans at the CSRM.
Alan Hegler
MoPac Forever!
Bob Webber
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