Pete,
Thanks for the detailed answer. It helps quite a bit.
Later, Dave Sarther Tucson, AZ
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From: Jpslhedgpeth <Jpslhedgpeth@aol.com>
To: CBQ <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sat, Mar 1, 2014 12:34 pm
Subject: Re: [CBQ] Ong, NE and waycar flag photos
Dave Sarther....I've looked at the photos you referred to regarding flags
etc...This photo is obviously of a waycar restored for museum or like displays
and the flags were placed "just for show"...not to be representative of what
would "normally" be found in a working car.
Personally I never saw either green or white flags as part of a flagging kit or
kept with waycar flagging equipment...As you mentioned the white flags were
used along with white classification lights on locomotives to indicate that the
train was an extra...The use of white flags was discontinued by most railroads
sometime in the 1950's and only white lights were used for that purpose..day or
night...Green flags were used along with green classification lights to
indicate that there were additional sections of a schedule to follow. Green
flags were still in use in the fifties.
As someone mentioned the red flag was an essential piece of flagging equipment
along with torpedoes and fusees..The number required to be carried by a flagman
was specified in the rule book by each carrier. A red light (lantern) was also
required at night, but its seems to have been less important in the later
times....I've seen some rulebooks which required only xx number of fuessees
and xx number of torpedoes and a white light.
As to the kind of seats in the cupola..Charlie V. answered that one
correctly...The seats were "walkover"....In the later days of waycar use some
lines even equipped waycar seats with seatbelts.
Pete H.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jpslhedgpeth <Jpslhedgpeth@aol.com>
To: CBQ <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sat, Mar 1, 2014 12:04 pm
Subject: Re: [CBQ] Ong, NE
Yes...I'll have to dig out my Waycar book and see what the picture shows and
I'll get back to you on that one...Thanks for reminding me...I tend to "park"
requests and then forget about them...
I'm "home alone" today and it's very cold here and I'm sitting by the fire
right across from my bookshelves. so I'll get at this "directly" as my
grandmother used to say...Maybe even today.
Pete
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From: sartherdj <sartherdj@aol.com>
To: CBQ <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Fri, Feb 28, 2014 10:02 pm
Subject: Re: [CBQ] Ong, NE
Thanks for the update/clarification re Ong, NE.
Did my request for information about CB&Q waycar interior details get through
to you?
"Pete,
I am building one of Glenn Guerra's fine O-Scale waycar kits to P:48 standards.
I am trying to do something of a representative interior based on photos from
Randy Daniel's Burlington Waycar Book. I have two questions.
On pages 241 and 245 there are interior photos showing some flags in the rear
corner, one red, one green and two white. Were the white flags used to
indicate an "extra" just like passenger trains? Would they have been displayed
off the rear porch of the waycar during operation?
In a waycar cupola would the crew seats have faced in opposite directions
during normal operation? The seat on the engineer's side facing forward and
the seat on the fireman's side facing to the rear?"
Thanks, Dave Sarther
sartherdj@aol.com
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From: Jpslhedgpeth <Jpslhedgpeth@aol.com>
To: CBQ <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Fri, Feb 28, 2014 6:10 pm
Subject: Re: [CBQ] Ong, NE
No doubt about it...This is, indeed, Ong...I passed this depot 12 times each
week for 6 weeks in 1958...If you have Al Holck's "Hub of Burlington Lines
West photo on page 265 shows what it look like in 1966.
Believe it or not there was a full time Agent (5 days/week) on duty there in
'58. Agent's wife was a partner with another woman as proprietresses of the
OWL CAFE at Schickley where we "dined" Monday-Wednesday and Friday evenings
going west on the Fairmont-Hildreth Local
Pete
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From: harleyhorse74 <harleyhorse74@gmail.com>
To: CBQ <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Fri, Feb 28, 2014 6:03 pm
Subject: [CBQ] Ong, NE [1 Attachment]
Could this possibly be the CB&Q depot in Ong, NE? Looks similar to the one in
Morrowville, KS.
Thanks,
Brian
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