When Ken noted that the Q's initial group of T-1s, diverted from a GN order,
may have been the first Burlington locomotives equipped with the tilting Ryan &
Johnson "coal pusher" (which indeed they were), it recalled to me the attached
photo, which appeared I Dianne R. Osmun's 2011 "Images of America" series book
on Creston, Iowa, from Arcadia Publishing. The image is from the collection of
the Union County Historical Society at Creston, and while the presumption has
always been that the four GN Mallets, 1905-1908, were renumbered CB&Q 4000-4004
at Chicago, this photo clearly disproves that supposition. GN 1906, soon to
become Q 4001, appears dead in a train at Creston, headed west for acceptance
by the Q (at Lincoln?) before being relettered and entering pusher service on
Crawford Hill in western Nebraska. The headlight is covered and the stack,
bell, whistle, pop valves and main rods removed for transport, and the
locomotive clearly bears its Great Northern lettering, so it was obviously not
relettered at Chicago -- or at West Burlington, since it is well past that
point already. Thus Lincoln -- possibly Havelock -- seems probable. The men
in the tender actually appear to be examining the workings of the Ryan &
Johnson device. Compare this view with the one of the engine a few months
later, in service on Crawford Hill, that appears on page 9 of Burlington
Bulletin No. 34 on the Q's Mallets. An interesting, previously unseen photo!
Hol
To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
From: krmiddle@charter.net
Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2014 17:04:07 -0500
Subject: Re: [CBQ] Tilting Tenders
As John Mitchell mentioned, this was not an exclusive Q
design. In fact I strongly suspect (without doing a lot of digging) that the
first ones acquired by the CB&Q were the T-1s received in 1908. These were
actually Great Northern engines 1905(1st), 1906(1st) and 1907(1st), but were
held over in Chicago by the CB&Q when they were being shipped to GN and
renumbered as 4000-4002. I think it's interesting that when Overland built
their
models of the F-2 (rebuilt from T-1s) their model had a tilting coal bunker
that
worked.
There is a good view of the rear of a somewhat different
design of tilting tender showing the cylinders that activated it on page 208 of
Steam Locomotives of the Great Northern Railway.
Best regards,
Ken Middleton
Portage, MI
krmiddle@charter.net
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I was cleaning up a builder's photo on O-2 5248 which features a tilting
coal bunker, presumably the forerunner of the coal pusher. The questions
are: Was this design exclusive to the CB&Q? Was this designed by the
Q's Mechanical Department? Was the mechanism steam or air
powered?
GN 1906 (CB&Q 4001), Creston, Iowa, 4-1908.jpg
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