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From: William Glick <Qglick@hotmail.com>
Date: Sun, 25 Aug 2013 16:41:25 -0500
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Hi Rich
 
I had done a Google search for Rich Forst and that article came up so
that is why I sent a request for Rich to call me. So far he has not.
Rich is the reason I did my first books as he loaned me his copy
of the CB&Q Diagram books which allowed me to do the first book
in 1986. I just wanted to say hello plus other Q conversation.
Thanks Rich do you have his email or phone number?
 
Whats new out your way? Are we going to see the 2-6-6-2 in plastic
which can be labeled CB&Q, GN & NP. Of course an E5 would be nice too.
But that is only for one RR, of course knowing the importers that may
not be a problem as they put 40 names on them anyway.
 
I have done several additional drawings over the last few years
that are revisions or updates to my former drawings plus new ones.
Several were in my Business car book but not in HO scale.
was wondering how many 11x17 books I could sell of these new HO Scale
drawings. Maybe 50 t0 75 at $50 or $60. Do you have a feeling for that?
 
Bill Glick
 
 
Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 8:28 PM
Subject: Re: [CBQ] Re: Fw: [BRHSlist] Re: Burlington E's
 
 

Bill,
 
I just read Rich's message and thought it was just posted.  I didn't realize it wasn't current!
 
Rich G.


-----Original Message-----
From: William Barber <clipperw@gmail.com>
To: CBQ <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sat, Aug 24, 2013 7:04 pm
Subject: [CBQ] Re: Fw: [BRHSlist] Re: Burlington E's

 
Rich G.
 
Your message really had me confused. What triggered your response to Rich Frost's message of February 3, 1999 at this late date? I saw nothing in recent digests concerning Mr. Frost message. I had to search the files to find the original post. Fortunately, the search function works very well when I searched for the date on Larry Mikkelson's message following Rich's message.
 
Bill Barber
Gravois Mills, MO
 
On Aug 24, 2013, at 4:41 AM, CBQ@yahoogroups.com wrote:

Fri Aug 23, 2013 7:01 pm (PDT) . Posted by:

rgortowski



Rich,

I know that in 1951, the Nebraska Zephyr used only one E unit for the the seven car articulated Nebraska Zephyr, plus an Economy baggage car - eight cars. 

Rich G.

--- In CBQ@yahoogroups.com, "Richard Forst" <rforst@xxxxxxxx.xxx.xxxx wrote:
>
> The Burlington had a formula for power to cars for the passenger trains. I
> believe it was one E Unit for every 5 cars. (It might have been six on
> certain runs) Headend cars, shorter jeep baggages, were counted differently
> (usually on 2nd and 3rd #1 and #10 during the Christmas rush. As a rule the
> Burlington also followed the EMD max of 4 E Units on a train, becasue of MU
> and braking responses. There are rare occasions where you do see 5 units on
> trains and on the C&S when they burned up the E 5's in freight service they
> ran long strings of the E5's.
> 
> It was Lou Menk, new president of the Q (x- Frisco) in 1965 that started the
> Elephant style of running E Units, incase the lead unit failed, the crews
> could swap units. However, it also did what Lou wanted and increased
> passenger train terminal costs by always turning all locomotives at the
> te rminal. When he arrived, he work the hardest at killing passenger service
> on the Q. He also was able to run some of the surburban runs with units
> coming off mainline runs. They were really dirty and obviously not serviced
> yet. This increased the mainline passenger costs to justify getting out of
> that business. And we all know ke killed the steam excursions on the Q.
> 
> Rich Forst
> rforst@...
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Larry M Mikkelson <LarryMMikkelson@...>
> To: BRHSlist@onelist.com <BRHSlist@onelist.com>;
> clive.turner@... <clive.turner@...>
> Date: Tuesday, February 02, 1999 8:34 PM
> Subject: [BRHSlist] Re: Burlington E's
> 
> 
> >From: Larry M Mikkelson <LarryMMikkelson@...>
> >
> >Clive,
> >
> >I believe the reason for 3 E's on the CZ or DZ was the length of those
> >trains, and 3 units provided the correct amount of power. As to running
> >all units nose forward, that was the practice in the late 60's, but during
> >the 50's I remember seeing Burlington E's on the Empire Builder back to
> >back. I heard that if all units ran nose forward, if the lead unit had a
> >collision or became disabled, it could be removed and the next unit would
> >be pointed in the right direction to continue the trip.
> >
> >The only E5's I have seen in HO were brass models from Hallmark, Oriental
> >Limitied and Challenger Imports.
> >
> >
> >
> >At 07:55 AM 1/26/99 -0000, you wrote:
> >>From: Turner Clive Civ 100SUPS/LGSAM <clive.turner@...>
> >>
> >>From "Clive Turner'&#39; In England < clive.turner@... >
> >>
> >>Dave,
> >>My Father has just built me a Custom made 5 shelf display case to show off
> >>my Locomotives, at the moment i have an ABA set of Alco PA's of the New
> York
> >>Central but of Course my Burlington! will take pride of place at the top,
> my
> >>Question is and please forgive me I'm still new to railroading but for
> what
> >>purpose did E8's and E9's run sets of 3 engines nose to tail ? i would
> like
> >>to display my Burlington&#39;s in that way.
> >>Finally is there any Company out there that makes an E5 in HO Scale with
> >>good detail?.
> >>Thank you
> >>Clive of England
> >>
> >>Mr C A.Turner
> >>Facilities Manager
> >>100th Supply Squadron
> >>MOD CIV (USAFE)
> >>Telephone Ext 2568
> >>
> >>> ----------
> >>> From: Dave Lotz[SMTP:Dave_Lotz@...]
> >>> Reply To: BRHSlist@onelist.com
> >>> Sent: Monday, January 25, 1999 11:27 PM
> >>> To: BRHSlist@onelist.com
> >>> Subject: [BRHSlist] Re: Burlington Baggage Cars (again)
> >>>
> >>> From: "Dave Lotz" <Dave_Lotz@...>
> >>>
> >>> Rumor has it that American Model Builders may be coming out with the
> > ;>> Havelock Baggage sometime this year in a Laserkit.
> >>>
> >>> Dave
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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