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RE: [CBQ] Abandonment of Original C&S Denver-Colo Springs Line

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Subject: RE: [CBQ] Abandonment of Original C&S Denver-Colo Springs Line
From: Bob Webber <rgz17@comcast.net>
Date: Tue, 09 Jul 2013 09:47:36 -0500
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Just to be complete - the Santa Fe was the reason the D&RG bought SG equipment.   The D&RG had a line from Denver to Colo. Springs (3'), and the Santa Fe wanted to get into Denver.   The D&RG laid a third rail, bought SG locomotives and cabooses and proceeded to forward the AT&SF trains to Denver.  The economies of scale (so to speak) finally dawned on the D&RG, and that was the impetus for the conversion from a 3' to SG railroad (due to the obvious competitive advantages shown by the "other" railroads on the Front Range). 

The rest of the story - with the AT&SF main and the directional running imposed by the USRA and subsequent Joint Line agreements are fairly well known.   But...if you look at the uses of Business Cars from the three railroads, quite a few were taken over by the USRA for use by their officials - some of whom were set to monitor the Joint Line. 

At 08:00 AM 7/8/2013, you wrote:


The original Joint Operating Agreement with the Santa Fe took effect on August 1, 1899 and thereafter there was only local service on the C&S "Old Line."  But it was abandoned in segments, with service over the line between Manitou Junction and Pueblo dropped almost immediately after Joint Line operation began.  By the time of the 1930s flooding the line was being operated between Denver and the Rock Island connection at Falcon, and the flood of May 30, 1935, took out large portions of the railroad in and near Elbert, resulting in an abandonment application that, upon approval, cut the line back to the outskirts of Denver.
 
Hol Wagner
 

To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
From: sjl_prodigynet@yahoo.com
Date: Sun, 7 Jul 2013 13:11:05 -0700
Subject: [CBQ] Abandonment of Original C&S Denver-Colo Springs Line

 
What year did C&S start operating on the Joint Line between Denver and Pueblo? What year was the original line between those two cities actually abandoned? Was the line in operation at the time in the 1930's when a flood washed away half of Elbert, CO?



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