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Subject: RE: [CBQ] Re: Motor Car Collision
From: HOL WAGNER <holpennywagner@msn.com>
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2013 18:33:07 -0700
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When the Special Collections ICC reports first went online many years ago (10-15?), the 1964 Montgomery report was there, and I printed it.  The PDFs of the actual reports are the only way to go, as the transcriptions are obviously done by someone totally unfamiliar with railroads and railroad terminology and are riddled with errors.  The Montgomery report disappeared years ago, and I don't know how many more may have met a similar fate, nor can I explain what happened or why; I just know it's not there now.
 
When the University of Denver acquired the entire ICC archives I was told by a former ICC representative that all the reports had been put online, and that's what I based my statement on.
 
Hol
 

To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
From: therrboomer@yahoo.com
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2013 23:13:13 +0000
Subject: [CBQ] Re: Motor Car Collision

 
I respectfully disagree. The Online Special Collection does
not have all the accident reports. I years past I've read ICC
reports that are not in the online collection. The Montgomery
report (1963?)is not shown and I know that generated an ICC report.
In 1964 I was an operator on GTW and each one of us had to sign
off that we had read and understoodthe that very ICC report.

Dick Haave

--- In CBQ@yahoogroups.com, HOL WAGNER wrote:
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> It's my understanding that the Special Collections does indeed have ALL the ICC accident investigation reports from 1912 on and that the real question is how the federal regularotry agency decided which accidents it would investigate and which it would not. As Pete suggests, some very serious accidents went uninvestigated. It appears the ICC wanted to investigate and report on accidents that were different in their basic cause from ones it had previously investigated. It was always looking to make a point with its investigations. For many years the major point was that the accident could have been avoided if a better block signal system, or even better, an automatic train control system, had been in use.
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