Re: [CBQ] Re: Chapin

["John D. Mitchell, Jr." <cbqrr47@yahoo.com>]

The tariff rate was determined by the shortest route on that railroad. so no, there was no finacial incentive to send it the long way around, however there might be operational reasons.

--- On Sun, 11/4/12, Duncan Cameron <d.cameron@sympatico.ca> wrote:

From: Duncan Cameron <d.cameron@sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: [CBQ] Re: Chapin
To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, November 4, 2012, 12:28 PM

 



Steve,

Would the CB&Q prefer the shorter route via Quincy or the longer route via Burlington?

Would there be a financial incentive to use one or the other?

Duncan

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: STEVEN HOLDING

To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2012 11:19 PM

Subject: Re: [CBQ] Re: Chapin

 

One problem we have as modelers is we do not have the length of line haul to be able to model true railroad operation.
If the shipper was on the CB&Q in Keokuk it would not be economical for the Q to just get a switch move(less money)and give the car to the Wabash.  So it would have been hauled North to Burlington(BN) 43 miles then East to Galesburg (YD((Willis Yard))) 44 miles South to Beardstown (BT)95 miles and on to Chapin 19 miles for a total of 201 miles.  Course the car could also move South to Quincy 37 miles then North to YD 100 miles and then to BT and Chapin for a total of 156 miles.  This is were tariffs come into play (IF you know how to read them) as the roads could then get paid for a switch and a line haul.
Next problem is HOW were the freights routed??  What was the commodity?  Often Lumber and Perishables were shipped without a buyer(consignee) and diverted in route as the commodity was sold in route and it could happen more then once across the country as some commodities were shipped.  Coal in carload lots were often handled in the same way.   The next problem is most loads and carload lots were shipped by weight.  
Try and work that in to your card order system on a model railroad. 
Like Leo I have a couple articles in prepublication one I hope will try and add to this post.
Steve in SC

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From: Duncan Cameron <d.cameron@sympatico.ca>
To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, November 3, 2012 5:02:53 PM
Subject: Re: [CBQ] Re: Chapin

 

Thanks for all the responses.

So, would anyone like to hazard a guess concerning the route the car would take to get to Chapin via the Q?

Down to St. Louis, then north up towards Beardstown?

Or north to Burlington and then south from Galesburg?

As Steve points out, it doesn't seem to make much sense when the Wabash had its own branch from Bluffs to Keokuk that would take the cars almost directly to Chapin.

Duncan

 

 

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Bob Weber

To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, November 03, 2012 12:53 AM

Subject: [CBQ] Re: Chapin

 

The CB&Q did a lot of interchange traffic with the Wabash at Chapin, Il.  The Wabash main line was Kansas City to Buffalo.  Here is their route map.

http://wabashrhs.org/images/wabsysmap.jpg

 

Bob Weber

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