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[CBQ] Re: SP trackage rights

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Subject: [CBQ] Re: SP trackage rights
From: "James Vivian" <jvivian765@yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 13:35:11 -0000
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--- In CBQ@yahoogroups.com, "Mike Schattl" <mike@...> wrote:
>
> I filmed an eastbound SP coal train at Spaulding before the trackage
rights deal.
> It was pulled by four DRGW tunnel motors.
>
> Here's the LINK:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pv4iFDKoec&feature=plcp
>
> Mike Schattl
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Paul Nadolski
> To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2012 8:02 AM
> Subject: [CBQ] Re: SP trackage rights
>
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> While I don't know for sure when SP/UP started running over the
CB&Q/BN to Chicago, I do know that SP handed a lot of traffic to the Soo
Line at Kansas City in the late 80s, which was hauled to Chicago on the
ex-MILW Kansas City line. I saw a LOT of trains at Davis Jct. as a
result. SP tried to buy that line from Soo/CP in 1990 but the deal fell
through, and I'd guess that is when SP started running to Chicago over
the BN's Mendota Sub. The CB&Q line was shorter (by about 60 or so
miles) than the Milwaukee line, so that was no doubt an added bonus for
SP.
>
> FWIW, the ex-MILW KC line was later sold to I&M Rail Link, which
became Iowa, Chicago & Eastern and is now owned by CP again (for now,
until EHH decides to sell that too...)
>
> Paul Nadolski
> Rockford, IL
>
> --- In CBQ@yahoogroups.com, "James Vivian" jvivian765@ wrote:
> >
> > Does anyone know how/where the SP gained access from the west to run
> > eastward on the Mendota Sub. and when this arrangement came into
being?
> > I know this must have carried over into the UP merger as I have have
> > seen run-through stack trains in the fairly recent past.
> >
>     Yes, "DJ" was a frequent haunt and the likes of  SP, MP, MKT,
MKCo, DRGW were typically denizens of the dark with the exception of
MKT, SP.



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