Re: [CBQ] Re: Waycar mystery - CW class

[STEVEN HOLDING <sholding@sbcglobal.net>]

A lot of the drawings were collected by De Goyler and are now in his collection at SMU in Dallas Texas.  Years ago I was working thru them for them.  Charlie has my hard copy of the index although I am not sure how accessible they might be.  Many of the drawings were standard and would apply for the Hudson, Pacifics, Northerns and the M Class 2-10-4's
All so many doodlebug drawings and a number of original line location drawings
Steve in SC

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From: "John D. Mitchell, Jr." <cbqrr47@yahoo.com>
To: "CBQ@yahoogroups.com" <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sat, October 13, 2012 12:44:20 PM
Subject: Re: [CBQ] Re: Waycar mystery - CW class

 

When I worked in the engineering department of Old Ben Coal Co., we had a large central shop where mining equipment was repaired, rebuilt and in some cases, built. Whenever something new was made, they took a Polaroid picture of it. They then used the picture to build the next one. Of course, what was ten inches long one time was nine inches long the next time and so on. So, no two were ever the same! The welders and machinists would write key dimensions with chalk on the shop wall. One year, during summer shut down, someone (a college student summer hire) got the bright idea to paint the walls.  Chaos ensued for months.

John                                 

From: William Barber <clipperw@gmail.com>
To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2012 11:20 AM
Subject: [CBQ] Re: Waycar mystery - CW class

 

Charlie,

When I called on West Burlington Shop post merger to the early 1990s, they had a full time resident staff engineer on site. He created drawings, maintained and updated drawings, issued and reviewed modifications, distributed drawings and information to the field and was involved in any special projects in the shop. His office was located in a loft near and above the general offices. Of course, his activities were coordinated with the Mechanical Dept. to whom he reported.  Many older drawings were maintained in his office. While I did not have a responsibility for the RR before merger, I suspect that the Q maintained a similar position when they controlled the operation of West Burlington. They probably had similar positions at the other major backshops such as Aurora, Denver, Havelock and possibly even Hannibal. 

That said, I recall one visit when repairs were being made to a wrecked locomotive. Several shop people, including the bay foreman, were gathered around the front of the locomotive discussing the best way to complete a certain portion of the the repair. A drawing was made in chalk on the end sheet of the locomotive and that was the plan they followed in completing the repairs! The specific drawing probably vanished with the paint job.

Bill Barber

Gravois Mills, MO

On Oct 13, 2012, at 5:32 AM, CBQ@yahoogroups.com wrote:

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Re: Waycar mystery - CW class

Fri Oct 12, 2012 7:21 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"Charlie Vlk" n_cbqguy

John- My point is that, while North American railroads had creative individuals working for them in far-flung locations it was not total anarchy…..most lines had management systems in place that required people to follow established protocols in the course of their daily work. Interesting deviations did happen the vast majority of work was done “by the book” down to very small details. There were areas of local variation …..routing of lines on steam locomotives, interpretation of lettering during the sign-painter era, etc… but standardization was normal. There are drawings for the smallest details of equipment and even down to tools used in the conduct of business. Sometimes we note the unusual (how many one-offs got made in plastic because they were of enough note to make it into a Cyclopedia or other publication? ) and the ordinary goes un-noticed as common background noise. It is like the notion that everyone coming through Immigration got their names Americanized…..while that did happen, it was not “normal”….plenty of people are “stuck” with their original European names…because the immigration people worked off of the Ship Registries….and especially the German Lines had bureaucracies in place to make the paperwork very accurate. I know this based on my own last name!! On the other hand, one of the problems I had when I worked at Kato was trying to convince the Japanese that two units were not painted exactly the same….something that would not be possible in Japan as they are suicidal about following rules there. Charlie Vlk

 

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