Hi,
(Sorry if some folks on both groups get this more than once!)
Back in late 2009 I asked on both the CBQ list and the STMFC list for help
creating a model of a CB&Q composite mill gon.
I've got some pictures of the completed model now, and thought others might
be interested. Note this is N scale.
I had a lot of fun doing this car.
Sorry about the super-long link!
https://zjw8hq.sn2.livefilestore.com/y1p8aDKkjZB-SYbQNI1ynaecHdNLqXTe_BrcpCPVFHjfihjnh3dZTWLdW3Rj7F_pg78gaNVUOcfNDRScwnmaTFzevmkPL-uT6iQ/CBQ_composite_mill_gon_MT_model_10.jpg?psid=1
or if that is too long to work, try the short link below...
http://tinyurl.com/8aftr3t
Thanks again to everyone for the tremendously helpful responses.
- Claus Schlund
----- Original Message -----
From: "Claus Schlund (HGM)" <claus@HellGateModels.com>
To: "STMFC" <STMFC@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, December 19, 2009 5:21 PM
Subject: Re: [STMFC] CB&Q 48 foot composite mill gons
> Hi,
>
> Thanks everyone for your more than helpful responses - I would never have
> guessed that so much imformation would be coming my way!
> Several folks sent me images off-list, thank you for those as they were
> very helpful.
>
>
> Here is my admittedly meager comtribution to the topic...
>
> A builders photo from the 1931 CBC (TSC #46) pg 215...
>
> http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4043/4198770352_3af882d03d_b.jpg
>
> An set of images of the N-scale Micro-Trains gon in CB&Q paint...
>
> http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2660/4198016869_ca287111ea_b.jpg
> http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2557/4198770700_ced97c70ab_b.jpg
>
> Lastly, am image of the undecorated Micro-Trains shell...
>
> http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2786/4198017167_0dca0ebd6f_b.jpg
>
> The car looks pretty good rite out of the box, and the factory lettering
> appears to be correct. A few things need to be fixed.
>
> * The car comes with a straight center sill, and the prototype has a
> fishbelly center sill. This needs to be corrected
>
> * The car rides too high and needs to be lowered
>
> * The car comes with a side-mounted brake wheel. While the photos I've
> received are not entirely conclusive, it appears these cars
> had (I'm not sure I've for the terminology right) lever brakes, much like
> those on the as-delivered USRA composite gons. This will
> need to be changed as well
>
> * The car comes with dreadnaught drop ends, and they should be 5-rib
> inverse Murphy. Not sure how to correct this...
>
> * The two end panels in the Micro-Trains model are slightly longer then
> the rest of the panels, and the prototype was just the
> opposite. I'm not going to make any effort to correct this. Oh well!
>
> Thanks again everyone, I've got some fun work to do.
>
> - Claus Schlund
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Claus Schlund (HGM)" <claus@hellgatemodels.com>
> To: "STMFC" <STMFC@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2009 3:38 PM
> Subject: [STMFC] CB&Q 48 foot composite mill gons
>
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm trying to gather up some info on CB&Q 48 foot composite mill gons,
>> but information and in-service images of these particular
> gons are proving elusive. I'm hoping someone here can help.
>>
>> The cars I'm asking about are pictured in the 1931 CBC (TSC #46) page
>> 215, which shows a builders photo of CB&Q 195499, described
> as follows: Composite Gondola Car, Solid Bottom, Drop Ends, ARA Class GM,
> Length Inside 48'6"; Builder, Pressed Steel Car Company.
>>
>> Apparently, this car was part of the series CB&Q 195000 to 196499. For a
>> class that had 1500 cars in it, you would think I'd be
> able to turn up SOMETHING! I have the CB&Q Historical Societies Data Sheet
> on composite gons, but it covers only 40 foot gons and
> makes no mention of the above cars.
>>
>> According to Dec 1930 ORER, statistics for this car class are:
>>
>> MCB class GM (gon, drop ends)
>> 195000 to 196499
>> IL 48' 6"
>> IW 9' 3/4"
>> IH 3' 10"
>> OL 49' 9 3/4"
>> OW 10' 3"
>> Extreme Ht 7' 6 3/4"
>> Cap 1770 cu ft or 100000 lb
>> 1498 cars
>>
>> An image of an N scale model of this car by MicroTrains can be seen at:
>>
>> http://i.ebayimg.com/05/!BP8hDBgCGk~$(KGrHgoOKj4EjlLmY+TiBJ2Qr6EpC!~~_12.JPG
>>
>> (hopefully the line will not wrap!)
>>
>> The MicroTrains model appears to be a excellent match structurally. But
>> I'm curious about the paint and lettering. The builders
> photo in the above 1931 CBC shows a two-color paint scheme, with all the
> wood parts painted white and the metal parts painted a
> darker color. I assume this paint scheme was for the photo only, and not
> for service. Can someone on this list confirm? Also, can
> anyone point me to a in-service photo of these gons? I'm interested in the
> as-built lettering. Lastly, anyone know if these gons
> were used for any specific service, routing or customer on the CB&Q?
>>
>> Thanks in advance for any info.
>>
>> - Claus
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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