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The rolling train after cutting away at Congress Park would not technically be the engineers fault. What you described so well is the result of "bottleing the air" on a train. A trainman does this to save time when he comes back with the engines and ties on;they wont have to pump off the brakes on the train. Sometimes it was the trainmans decision and sometimes the engineer would ask you to do it. The trick was to talk about it before hand and co-ordinate so that the angle cocks weren't turned until the brake pipe pressure had equalized and brakes were set hard. If you didnt wait and coordinate,especially at Congress Park you got the action you described.
One would think the rear end crew would dump the air realizing not enough time had passed for the engines to be back on the train. Then again if they were not awake.................. I bet they were when the "joint" was made.
 
Leo Phillipp


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I just caught the post about stopping the Eastbound freight trains to make the set out at the IHB at Congress Park. I grew up a block from the Q tracks at Maple Avenue. It seemed that several times a year we would hear a loud "Ka-Boom" at the IHB interchange (South Wye), mostly at nite. It seems the grade from La Grange Road to Maple Avenue was not clearly understood by all engineers. They would get their train stopped, make the cut, pull ahead, the switch was thrown, and when backing up the train started to roll into the backing interchange cut. I saw at least two to three derailments a year being cleaned up, one with the livestock running loose from the stock cars. Day or nite, every time I heard the loud boom, I'd get on my bike and run to the tracks to what happened. During the day, I'd see a freight slowing for the set out on the IHB. I'd watch the action and see what would happen. One time I saw the brakeman seeing the train rolling forward, quickly reset the switch straight, threw his fusee high in the air for the engineer to stop, and ran away from the tracks. He let the cars hit straight on with a big boom but no derailment. Later on the set outs to the IHB got smaller and not as often. That's part of life growing up next to the three train mainline.

Another little problem was the grade from Brookfield over Salt Creek, thru Hollywood to Riverside (Des Plaines River Bridge). I saw a number of long freights, after making their set out at Congress Park, slowly get their train rolling but stall trying to get up over the bridge. Of course that would tie up all the road crossings between Maple Avenue and Riverside. This was the F-Unit days and I wonder if the "Q" was maybe reducing the power off the mainline freights at Eola or somewhere for utilization purposes, or were some of the units DIT and not running.


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