Re: [CBQ] Re: C&S NW2

[John Manion <railbass@comcast.net>]

Maybe I should clarify my terminology here.   The C&S handled the switching for AT&SF in Denver in Rice Yards, so these NW2s and SW7 154, and SW1200s 156-160 were bought in 1947, 1948, 1950, and 1959 to replace steam switchers - 0-6-0s and 2-8-0s.   These switchers were recognizable by the C&S/AT&SF lettering and the lack of Q hood lettering.   Even after BN took over, and these units began to be painted black/green, they were still lettered C&S/AT&SF on the cab sides.   Some of the steam switchers, particularly the 0-6-0s in Denver in the 1940s, also carried C&S/AT&SF on the tenders.

 

The joint line was an arrangement between AT&SF and D&RGW, decided by the USRA in 1918, to jointly operate their competing trackage between Denver and Pueblo.   At the same time, USRA decided to have C&S operate on the same trackage rather than their original D&NO/DT&G/DT&FW route to Colorado Springs and Pueblo.   C&S and AT&SF arranged to share switching operations along the line - C&S in Denver and AT&SF south to Pueblo.   AT&SF switchers included RSD-4 #2107, GE 44 ton #464, and Baldwin DS4-4-750 #632 and DS4-4-1000 #2292.   These are pictured in Hol Wagner's Colorado Road as lettered both AT&SF and C&S.  I don't know any details on the AT&SF steam locos which did this, but they apparently did prior to dieselization.

 

I grew up in southwest Denver and went to high school with Hol Wagner.   We spent a lot of time near the C&S south Denver and Connors branches, and I remember well the switchers lettered C&S/AT&SF.   Hol has many photos of them.   I was only taking photos of the last steam in those days.   This NW2 model brings back a lot of memories.

- John Manion

  Denver, CO

On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 6:52 PM, POOTUS2010 <bearmtnbob@yahoo.com> wrote:

 

--- In CBQ@yahoogroups.com, John Manion <railbass@...> wrote:
>
> I just received the new Broadway Limited EMD NW2 model, which I had planned
> to use to model D&RGW #100. However, it has tall exhaust stacks and
> vented hood doors, which the D&RGW NW2, made in Jan 1941, did not. I

> looked in Fulcomer's *Colorado & Southern Southern Division Color
> Pictorial*and found that this model appears to be very accurate for

> the C&S/AT&SF
> joint line switchers #150-153. These units were painted in the blackbird
> scheme when received in 1947, except that they did not have "Everywhere
> West" and "Way of the Zephyrs" on the hood sides. They also did not have
> the Burlington emblem on the cab sides but were lettered with C&S and
> AT&SF. They also came with the red and yellow horizontal striping on the
> side sills. Microscale's 87-609 decal includes all of the needed striping
> and lettering, including the white C&S and AT&SF initials. I can now
> paint my own joint line switcher.
> - John Manion
> Denver, CO
>

re: John Mannion "Joint Line Switcher? All switching on the joint line between Palmer Lake and Denver was handled by the AT&SF switcher (usually a GP) assigned to the Santa Fe intermodal "Big Lift" near Sedalia. Never saw a C&S or BN switcher venture out on the Joint Line south of Denver. Best Regards, Bob Munshower

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