Please excuse all the typos..
--- In CBQ@yahoogroups.com, "Dave Lotz" <Dave_Lotz@...> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> Several folks have emailed me asking pertenant questions regarding the post
> on the O5 restoration group and project. I emailed Lindsey (See the copy at
> the bottom of this email), and below is her response and her email address if
> you would like to contact her.
>
> Dave
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lindsey Fowler [mailto:lindsey_m_fowler@...]
> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 8:45 PM
> To: dave_lotz@...
> Cc: Karl Rethwisch
> Subject: Re: [CBQ] CB&Q Steam , answers for Dave.
>
>
>
>
> Hi Dave,
>
>
> Here's some answers to your questions:
>
>
> Who are you Lindsey, where are you located and what are your credentials?
> I am a die hard 50's and 60's railfan, 100%.
>
> I am a photojournalist, 50+ years young. I've worked in TV most of my life.
> I worked one year as an assistant signal maintainer, and was going to hire
> out on the ICG, but decided to forget the railroad after a year and quit. I
> was also certified as a conductor in those days, but never went to train
> service officially. Women were kind of frowned on..even though I paid my BRS
> union dues every month just like the rest of them did. I am a go getter. I
> get something in my head and will "not" abandon it until it's either done, or
> I'm dead. I am from an almost all railroad family, both grandparents worked
> for the C&A/GM&O as Agent, lightning slinging trainer for the west end of the
> C&A and Operator, two uncles as clerks/operators, one at the GM&O Tower near
> Joliet. One brother who worked for the Mop Passenger Service, then Amtrak for
> a few years and took the buyout when it was offered. The family name there
> was Sheley and Meyers. I also had a favorite uncle by the name of Sam
> Demoss.. (Uncle Lester to us) who worked for the CB&Q as a hog head. I have a
> funny story about that for you sometime. He worked out of Galesburg for 43
> years, retired off the North Hump there. He ran the C&I, West Quincy and
> Chicago I think he said. I've been involved in several railroad museums, the
> main one was acquiring the GM&O 880B from ICG at Paducah. I orchestrated it's
> movement from there to Farber, I worked with the track department to build a
> shoe fly off the siding there and moved it down to the Depot/Museum. Sadly
> it is not there anymore. Another story. I've lived in Alabama, Tennessee,
> Missouri and Kansas. I am a born again follower of Jesus Christ. He is my
> Lord and Saviour.. I have never been arrested, nor do I even have a speeding
> ticket for over 30 years now. I grew up with Steam Tractors as a hobby. My
> grandfather Fowler had two Case coal burning pufferbellies.. and we made the
> trip to Mount Pleasant, Iowa most every year just to watch, not to
> participate. I am a railroad historian by nature and hold the Board Secretary
> position until such a time that we have an operating Burlington Steam loco
> up
>
> and running, where I will be the Steam Manager. I have the 5632 print by
> John Winfield as I'm sure everyone in the CB&Q Group does, hanging on my
> wall.. I stare at it every day dreaming of what we could accomplish with the
> right people involved.
>
>
> Who and what is the Burlington Route Locomotive Group and where is it located?
> We are a group of ex-railroaders and CB&Q fans, who miss the Burlington so
> much, we'd step up to great lengths to work on placing an O5 under steam
> again. I have the 5632 print by John Winfield as I'm sure everyone in the
> CB&Q Group does, hanging on my wall.. I stare at it every day dreaming of
> what we could accomplish with the right people involved. As I said in my
> post, we are a new group, dedicated to Burlington Steam restoration with our
> focus on one of the O5s still in existence. We are putting together a Board
> of Directors of Who we think are really great people for this multi-year
> task. We are working on our 501(C)(3) this week so that should be done soon.
> Karl Rethwisch of Pueblo, Colorado, myself and another gentleman whom I do
> not know but plan too really soon now, who Karl has just recruited will be on
> the working board so far. See more below.
>
>
>
> Has it been set up as a legal operation?
> As I said above, we will be legal. I will not have it any other way, period.
>
>
> Who are its directors, board members and who are the consultants who have had
> experience in doing a restoration?
> Karl Rethwisch and I are the main body of the board so far. We are very picky
> who will be on this board and who won't. Karl has worked on two steam
> projects now I think. He can answer this himself. As I said earlier, he also
> has spoken to a third gentleman who also has steam restoration experience. My
> list of contacts and advisers are Don Crimmin and Karl Rethwisch advisers. We
> are to speak with Steve Sandberg of the CNW 261 project, Jim Conner of the
> Soo Steam project, Bob Franzen of the Grand Canyon CB&Q steam project. These
> names have already been notified, and we hope to speak to each of them as
> well as others who may be able to assist in the near future. We shall see.
> Maybe I'll talk to Steve Lee as well, if he even remembers me. I will say it
> is a blessing to had Don Crimmin behind us.
>
>
>
> Which O5B do you have access to, the one in St. Joe or the one in Golden? (I
> believe the other two O5â??s are O5As.
> I'm afraid that the' 29 at Golden and the '14 at St. Joe are land locked, not
> to mention, I think St. Joe want's to keep their O5 right where it is since
> it is under canopy now, though anything's possible.. There are others we are
> looking at. One is is pretty good shape, but will need allot of restoration
> due to the asbestos wrapping on the boiler. Running gear wise, it looks good.
> The boiler test will cost us.. You see, we cannot even know for sure if we
> have a workable O5 until we have it FRA inspected, and that's going to take
> allot right there. This is a step by step process. One which we will not get
> in a big hurry on, although we will be diligent once we know we have a
> re-build-able O5 that is practical to pursue. We also have a fully rebuilt
> feedwater heater, power reverser and air compressor ready to go for an O5
> once we secure the one we want. One thing, if we obtain an O5a, we will
> convert it to oil because oils are cheap compared to coal.
>
>
>
> Has there been any discussions and a WRITTEN AGREEMENT about taking it over
> to rebuild, if so, is that document available for review?
> No written agreement yet. All I really want at this time is to know the level
> of interest in bringing an O5 back to steam. Once we secure a locomotive, all
> will be disclosed to the requesting parties.
>
>
> Have you worked up a detailed plan on what the costs would be, how it would
> be distributed, and most importantly, a time line.
> Yes we have a rough draft of Phase I of this project. Once we assemble a
> working and knowledgeable Board of Directors, then we shall review what has
> been done and investigate further actions "before" we lay down a detailed
> master plan. My estimated time span for completion is under ten years. It all
> depends on our resources how fast it will all come together..as in any steam
> project. Do I hope for a millionaire to step up to the plate and fund the O5?
> Yes..I think everyone would, but we mist be realistic here in that the monies
> needed for this extensive of a project will most likely come via smaller
> donations, and allot of them.
>
>
>
> There is much more I could speak on that we have addresses here, but it
> really would serve no purpose until we do have more of an idea what's going
> on and where. We have been hitting all the pros and cons we can think of.
> Right now we are our own think tank, getting ready to propose our
> plans..Again, we "are not" asking for donations of any kind yet. Once we have
> satisfied our legalities to the organization, and we have a project in hand,
> we will then be asking for help.
>
>
>
> I hope this has answered a few of your questions Dave. If you would like to
> know more, please feel free to write or call Karl or myself.
>
>
> Lindsey Fowler,
>
> The Burlington Route Locomotive Group.
>
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> From: Dave Lotz <dave_lotz@...>
> To: lindsey_m_fowler@...
> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 1:30 PM
> Subject: RE: [CBQ] CB&Q Steam.
>
>
>
> Hi Lindsey,
>
> I know there are MANY folks on the CBQ list who are excited about the
> possibility of a restored O5B. However, there have been several false starts
> on restoring CB&Q steam, and the folks here would like to know more before
> any commitments are made. We want to make sure this is a legitimate effort
> and not a scam, so donâ??t expect donations until most of the following
> questions are answered.
>
> Who are you Lindsey, where are you located and what are your credentials?
> Who and what is the Burlington Route Locomotive Group and where is it located?
> Has it been set up as a legal operation?
> Who are its directors, board members and who are the consultants who have had
> experience in doing a restoration?
> Which O5B do you have access to, the one in St. Joe or the one in Golden? (I
> believe the other two O5â??s are O5As.
> Has there been any discussions and a WRITTEN AGREEMENT about taking it over
> to rebuild, if so, is that document available for review?
> Have you worked up a detailed plan on what the costs would be, how it would
> be distributed, and most importantly, a time line.
>
> If this is a serious effort, Iâ??m certain that you will receive serious
> support for the members of the CBQ list.
>
> Dave Lotz
> CBQ List Owner
>
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