BRHSLIST
[Top] [All Lists]

[CBQ] Re: CB&Q Steam

To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [CBQ] Re: CB&Q Steam
From: "lindsey_m_fowler" <lindsey_m_fowler@yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 00:17:59 -0000
Delivered-to: unknown
Delivered-to: archives@nauer.org
Delivered-to: mailing list CBQ@yahoogroups.com
Dkim-signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoogroups.com; s=lima; t=1331943484; bh=PmfK2mMhgUkx3rx/SpK1AOViCPZaSP3WtvSBKLsvhT8=; h=Received:Received:Received:X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Sender:X-Apparently-To:X-Received:X-Received:X-Received:X-Received:X-Received:X-Received:To:Message-ID:In-Reply-To:User-Agent:X-Mailer:X-Originating-IP:X-eGroups-Msg-Info:X-Yahoo-Post-IP:From:X-Yahoo-Profile:Sender:MIME-Version:Mailing-List:Delivered-To:List-Id:Precedence:List-Unsubscribe:Date:Subject:Reply-To:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=GwAybB4IH7njZVCw6ce3+Bq3HOhHkh5tNRX4ygs+nbwxZn1X4bbKaus2BoJDZhVv9njyN4CHVzyI4L4wxIxw3fIdpw/6s0jOGJ9NKNuLNE2yqpeqzwC2va7c7mpZ/HF/
Domainkey-signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=lima; d=yahoogroups.com; b=dh+L0xua5yzmHLLZRLIKUu80u0U2YXx7IUwPDG4n7qxZSCyDzhnq6CN2NBNrTJSzsE7rutTmGKuE8Bc5ZuS5VrWZ/OprQT2+Yp0DpvHoco+4HaFHUH0ZA6ba/n0sYOpw;
In-reply-to: <KGEBKGPLHMDMEJMKKJGOMEHKKNAA.dave_lotz@bellsouth.net>
List-id: <CBQ.yahoogroups.com>
List-unsubscribe: <mailto:CBQ-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com>
Mailing-list: list CBQ@yahoogroups.com; contact CBQ-owner@yahoogroups.com
Reply-to: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
Sender: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
User-agent: eGroups-EW/0.82
Please excuse all the typos.. 

--- In CBQ@yahoogroups.com, "Dave Lotz" <Dave_Lotz@...> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
> 
> Several folks have emailed me asking pertenant questions regarding the post 
> on the O5 restoration group and project.  I emailed Lindsey (See the copy at 
> the bottom of this email), and below is her response and her email address if 
> you would like to contact her.  
> 
> Dave
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lindsey Fowler [mailto:lindsey_m_fowler@...]
> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 8:45 PM
> To: dave_lotz@...
> Cc: Karl Rethwisch
> Subject: Re: [CBQ] CB&Q Steam , answers for Dave.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Hi Dave,
> 
> 
> Here's some answers to your questions:
> 
> 
> Who are you Lindsey, where are you located and what are your credentials? 
> I am a die hard 50's and 60's railfan, 100%.
> 
>  I am a photojournalist, 50+ years young. I've worked in TV most of my life. 
> I worked one year as an assistant signal maintainer, and was going to hire 
> out on the ICG, but decided to forget the railroad after a year and quit. I 
> was also certified as a conductor in those days, but never went to train 
> service officially. Women were kind of frowned on..even though I paid my BRS 
> union dues every month just like the rest of them did. I am a go getter. I 
> get something in my head and will "not" abandon it until it's either done, or 
> I'm dead. I am from an almost all railroad family, both grandparents worked 
> for the C&A/GM&O as Agent, lightning slinging trainer for the west end of the 
> C&A and Operator, two uncles as clerks/operators, one at the GM&O Tower near 
> Joliet. One brother who worked for the Mop Passenger Service, then Amtrak for 
> a few years and took the buyout when it was offered. The family name there 
> was Sheley and Meyers. I also had a favorite uncle by the name of Sam 
> Demoss.. (Uncle Lester to us) who worked for the CB&Q as a hog head. I have a 
> funny story about that  for you sometime. He worked out of Galesburg for 43 
> years, retired off the North Hump there. He ran the C&I, West Quincy and 
> Chicago I think he said. I've been involved in several railroad museums, the 
> main one was acquiring the GM&O 880B from ICG at Paducah. I orchestrated it's 
> movement from there to Farber, I worked with the track department to build a 
> shoe fly off the siding there  and moved it down to the Depot/Museum. Sadly 
> it is not there anymore. Another story. I've lived in Alabama, Tennessee, 
> Missouri and Kansas. I am a born again follower of Jesus Christ. He is my 
> Lord and Saviour..  I have never been arrested, nor do I even have a speeding 
> ticket for over 30 years now. I grew up with Steam Tractors as a hobby. My 
> grandfather Fowler had two Case coal burning pufferbellies.. and we made the 
> trip to Mount Pleasant, Iowa most every year just to watch, not to 
> participate. I am a railroad historian by nature and hold the Board Secretary 
> position until such a time  that we have an operating Burlington Steam loco 
> up 
> 
> and running, where I will be the Steam Manager.  I have the 5632 print by 
> John Winfield as I'm sure everyone in the CB&Q Group does, hanging on my 
> wall.. I stare at it every day dreaming of what we could accomplish with the 
> right people involved.
> 
> 
> Who and what is the Burlington Route Locomotive Group and where is it located?
> We are a group of ex-railroaders and CB&Q fans, who miss the Burlington so 
> much, we'd step up to great lengths to work on placing an O5 under steam 
> again. I have the 5632 print by John Winfield as I'm sure everyone in the 
> CB&Q Group does, hanging on my wall.. I stare at it every day dreaming of 
> what we could accomplish with the right people involved. As I said in my 
> post, we are a new group, dedicated to Burlington Steam restoration with our 
> focus on one of the O5s still in existence. We are putting together a Board 
> of Directors of Who we think are really great people for this multi-year 
> task. We are working on our 501(C)(3) this week so that should be done soon. 
> Karl Rethwisch of Pueblo, Colorado, myself and another gentleman whom I do 
> not know but plan too really soon now, who Karl has just recruited will be on 
> the working board so far. See more below.
> 
> 
> 
> Has it been set up as a legal operation?
> As I said above, we will be legal. I will not have it any other way, period.
> 
> 
> Who are its directors, board members and who are the consultants who have had 
> experience in doing a restoration?
> Karl Rethwisch and I are the main body of the board so far. We are very picky 
> who will be on this board and who won't. Karl has worked on two steam 
> projects now I think. He can answer this himself. As I said earlier, he also 
> has spoken to a third gentleman who also has steam restoration experience. My 
> list of contacts and advisers are Don Crimmin and Karl Rethwisch advisers. We 
> are to speak with Steve Sandberg  of the CNW 261 project, Jim Conner of the 
> Soo Steam project, Bob Franzen of the Grand Canyon CB&Q steam project. These 
> names have already been notified, and we hope to speak to each of them as 
> well as others who may be able to assist in the near future. We shall see. 
> Maybe I'll talk to Steve Lee as well, if he even remembers me. I will say it 
> is a blessing to had Don Crimmin behind us.
> 
> 
> 
> Which O5B do you have access to, the one in St. Joe or the one in Golden?  (I 
> believe the other two O5â??s are O5As.
> I'm afraid that the' 29 at Golden and the '14 at St. Joe are land locked, not 
> to mention, I think St. Joe want's to keep their O5 right where it is since 
> it is under canopy now, though anything's possible.. There are others we are 
> looking at. One is is pretty good shape, but will need allot of restoration 
> due to the asbestos wrapping on the boiler. Running gear wise, it looks good. 
> The boiler test will cost us.. You see, we cannot even know for sure if we 
> have a workable O5 until we have it FRA inspected, and that's going to take 
> allot right there.  This is a step by step process. One which we will not get 
> in a big hurry on, although we will be diligent once we  know we have a 
> re-build-able O5 that is practical to pursue. We also have a fully rebuilt 
> feedwater heater, power reverser and air compressor ready to go for an O5 
> once we secure the one we want. One thing, if we obtain an O5a, we will 
> convert it to oil because oils are cheap compared to coal.
> 
> 
> 
> Has there been any discussions and a WRITTEN AGREEMENT about taking it over 
> to rebuild, if so, is that document available for review?
> No written agreement yet. All I really want at this time is to know the level 
> of interest in bringing an O5 back to steam. Once we secure a locomotive, all 
> will be disclosed to the requesting parties.
> 
> 
> Have you worked up a detailed plan on what the costs would be, how it would 
> be distributed, and most importantly, a time line.
> Yes we have a rough draft of Phase I of this project. Once we assemble a 
> working and knowledgeable Board of Directors, then we shall review what has 
> been done and investigate further actions "before" we lay down a detailed 
> master plan. My estimated time span for completion is under ten years. It all 
> depends on our resources how fast it will all come together..as in any steam 
> project. Do I hope for a millionaire to step up to the plate and fund the O5? 
> Yes..I think everyone would, but we mist be realistic here in that the monies 
> needed for this extensive of a project will most likely come via smaller 
> donations, and allot of them.
> 
> 
> 
> There is much more I could speak on that we have addresses here, but it 
> really would serve no purpose until we do have more of an idea what's going 
> on and where. We have been hitting all the pros and cons we can think of. 
> Right now we are our own think tank, getting ready to propose our 
> plans..Again, we "are not" asking for donations of any kind yet. Once we have 
> satisfied our legalities to the organization, and we have a project in hand, 
> we will then be asking for help. 
> 
> 
> 
> I hope this has answered a few of your questions Dave. If you would like to 
> know more, please feel free to write or call Karl or myself.
> 
> 
> Lindsey Fowler, 
> 
> The Burlington Route Locomotive Group. 
> 
> 
> 
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> From: Dave Lotz <dave_lotz@...>
> To: lindsey_m_fowler@... 
> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2012 1:30 PM
> Subject: RE: [CBQ] CB&Q Steam.
> 
> 
> 
> Hi Lindsey,
> 
> I know there are MANY folks on the CBQ list who are excited about the 
> possibility of a restored O5B.  However, there have been several false starts 
> on restoring CB&Q steam, and the folks here would like to know more before 
> any commitments are made.  We want to make sure this is a legitimate effort 
> and not a scam, so donâ??t expect donations until most of the following 
> questions are answered.
> 
> Who are you Lindsey, where are you located and what are your credentials? 
> Who and what is the Burlington Route Locomotive Group and where is it located?
> Has it been set up as a legal operation?
> Who are its directors, board members and who are the consultants who have had 
> experience in doing a restoration?
> Which O5B do you have access to, the one in St. Joe or the one in Golden?  (I 
> believe the other two O5â??s are O5As.
> Has there been any discussions and a WRITTEN AGREEMENT about taking it over 
> to rebuild, if so, is that document available for review?
> Have you worked up a detailed plan on what the costs would be, how it would 
> be distributed, and most importantly, a time line.
> 
> If this is a serious effort, Iâ??m certain that you will receive serious 
> support for the members of the CBQ list.
> 
> Dave Lotz
> CBQ List Owner
>




------------------------------------

Yahoo! Groups Links

<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CBQ/

<*> Your email settings:
    Individual Email | Traditional

<*> To change settings online go to:
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CBQ/join
    (Yahoo! ID required)

<*> To change settings via email:
    CBQ-digest@yahoogroups.com 
    CBQ-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com

<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
    CBQ-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com

<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
    http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

<Prev in Thread] Current Thread [Next in Thread>