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Steve et al
I don't think that the use of a motorcar (gas electric) ITSELF was the deciding factor on the number of brakemen required...This could, of course, vary from district to district.
In 1956 I worked the Hastings-Huntley local which used the 9769 for power. We had two brakemen. The local operated Monday Wednesday Friday Hastings- Huntley (all branch lines). Tue and Thursday it operated Hastings-Sutton thence north to Lushton back to Sutton and then south to Clay Center. (Hastings-Sutton main line). I recall someone saying that a local operating exclusively in all branch line territory only one brakeman was required.
But I never saw anything official or in writing about this.
In another case the Tarkio Valley branch local (Villisca Ia-Corning MO) always had two brakeman and that was all branch line territory.
IIRC in passenger service only one brakeman was required if the consist was 5 cars or less.
Leo can you give us definitive info on this...I've often wondered about it.
Pete
-----Original Message----- From: STEVEN HOLDING <sholding@sbcglobal.net> To: CBQ <CBQ@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Mon, Mar 5, 2012 9:30 pm Subject: Re: [CBQ] Gas Electric in Rochelle, IL Leo and Rich
Being on the Rockford Wayfreight makes sense as I was told the job only had one brakeman by agreement due to the use of the Gas Electric and not needing the extra man. The gas electrics were used until they crapped out and then some rebuilt into coaches while others just replaced by diesels. We use to have to put the number of brakemen on the train sheet as some crews only had one Steve in SC From: "rgortowski@aol.com" <rgortowski@aol.com> To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, March 5, 2012 9:11:38 AM Subject: Re: [CBQ] Gas Electric in Rochelle, IL Leo,
Is the gas electric in the photo on a culvert? Is there a creek right by the station?
Rich
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From: qutlx1 <qutlx1@aol.com> To: cbq <cbq@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Mon, Mar 5, 2012 7:48 am Subject: Fwd: [CBQ] Gas Electric in Rochelle, IL This second photo sure looks like #42 going east at the Rochelle depot. What is viewable of the depot would be correct for Rochelle and the elevator would be in the right position.
As we've discussed the job didnt exist by 1951. Without going into the BRT/UTU files and searching my memory says the motor car came off in 1948.
Just wondering out loud if after the motor car came off it was used on the Rockford wayfreight for awhile ? But that job hauled a fairly good train down to Flag Center and back to Rockford each night each night.
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Leo Phillipp
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Here is another of his photos of a gas-electric in what appears to be Rochelle to me:
Maybe the dates are wrong? I wouldn't expect a gas-electric, especially with a trailing unit to be in Rochelle in 1951.
Rich G.
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From: qutlx1 <qutlx1@aol.com> To: cbq <cbq@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Mon, Mar 5, 2012 7:26 am Subject: Fwd: [CBQ] Gas Electric in Rochelle, IL Good question Rich,
If the location is identified correctly. From the photo the site appears to be looking west and the car is on the west end of the Kennedy track.
#41/42 was the daily motor car between Rockford and Aurora but by 1950 it is not in the C&I ETT. It is in the 1947.
The Rockford wayfreight ran from Rockford to Rochelle each night and return. Could this be the Rockford wayfreight powerrunning late and tied up for beans before going back to Rockford ?
Leo
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If this dealer has the location correct, there was a Gas-Electric in Rochelle, IL. in January 1951. Why would that be?
Rich G.
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