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Re: [CBQ] Re: Streamlined Jim Crow Coach

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Subject: Re: [CBQ] Re: Streamlined Jim Crow Coach
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Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2011 00:38:00 -0400 (EDT)
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John,

That is very surprising and interesting!  It's amazing what you can learn on 
this list!  On the same note, the blueprints of the 14th Street coachyard shows 
the facilities for the workers having separate restrooms for whites and blacks 
- so it wasn't just Southern Illinois...

Rich G.




-----Original Message-----
From: John D. Mitchell, Jr. <cbqrr47@yahoo.com>
To: CBQ <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sat, Sep 24, 2011 10:19 pm
Subject: Re: [CBQ] Re: Streamlined Jim Crow Coach


 

Rich
The Q operated a CW-6 (3992) with an eight passenger Jim Crow compartment from 
Centralia,Illinois to Paducah, Kentucky on trains 71-72 until the 1940's. In 
that regard, this was very much the south. During that same time, the IC 
segregated their passenger trains as far north as Carbondale, Illinois (up to 
the late 50's).

From: "rgortowski@aol.com" <rgortowski@aol.com>
To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2011 10:01 PM
Subject: Re: [CBQ] Re: Streamlined Jim Crow Coach

  


Mike,

Those two coaches for the C&S were 600 and 601 - Silver Mine and Silver Spur 
for the TZ. The diagram shows no Jim Crow section, but Randall may be using a 
generic diagram here. I'm sure Hol will straighten us out!

Rich G.

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Cafferata <mcaff1@htc.net>
To: CBQ <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sat, Sep 24, 2011 9:45 pm
Subject: [CBQ] Re: Streamlined Jim Crow Coach

Maybe the car was intended for possible use on the Texas Zephyr. I checked
Randall's "From Zephyr to Amtrak" and see that the C&S and FW&D purchased
Budd cars for the TZ in 1937, 1938 and 1940. Were those coaches of the Jim
Crow configuration? Just a thought.

Mike Cafferata

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