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RE: [CBQ] Re:4-8-4's

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Subject: RE: [CBQ] Re:4-8-4's
From: HOL WAGNER <holpennywagner@msn.com>
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 08:51:26 -0600
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Noel:
 
There are two in Wyoming: 5631 at the state fairgrounds at Douglas and 5633 
adjacent to the depot at Sheridan.  Both are coal-burners (only fitting since 
they're displayed in coal mining country).
 
Hol




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From: georgecrawfordsr@comcast.net
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 09:48:17 -0400
Subject: RE: [CBQ] Re:4-8-4's


  




Bill,

What about the 0-5 in Wyoming? Forget the number and the location right now.

Noel

From: CBQ@yahoogroups.com [mailto:CBQ@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of William
Barber
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 9:38 AM
To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [CBQ] Re:4-8-4's

Cy,

That is basically correct. Of course, two of the O-5s converted to oil were
from the second group and were also classed as O-5B. These were 5614 and
5620. Of the oil burners (all six converted in the early 1950s), only two
still exist. Those are 5614 at St. Joseph, MO and 5629 at the Colorado
Railway Museum in Golden, CO. The others converted to oil were 5626, 5627
and 5632. All the rest remained O-5As to the end. Two hudsons were also
converted to oil. Those were the 4002 and 4003. 

Interestingly, Q began converting locomotives in other classes to oil as far
back as the 1920s. However, most if not all of those, did not carry the "B"
sub classification. They simply were classed with their original or previous
classification. As an example, the USRA heavy 2-8-2s were classed O-4, but
did not become O-4Bs after conversion to oil. It appears that the idea of a
special class for oil burning locomotives did not evolve until the later
conversion of the O-5s and S-4s. On the roster sheets, there was a special
symbol designating an oil burning locomotive as there was also for those
that burned lignite coal.

Sure would be nice to have a bulletin on the O-5s of the caliber of the
Hudson bulletin. After all, the O-5s were the zenith of Q's steam power.

Bill Barber
Gravois Mills, MO

On Aug 25, 2011, at 2:30 AM, CBQ@yahoogroups.com
<mailto:CBQ%40yahoogroups.com> wrote:

> 4-8-4's
> Posted by: "CY" ctsvobodny@yahoo.com <mailto:ctsvobodny%40yahoo.com>
ctsvobodny
> Wed Aug 24, 2011 9:23 pm (PDT)
> 
> 
> 
> 5600-5607 were built by Baldwin as O-5's, 5608-5620 were built at West
Burlington(with Baldwin boilers) as O-5?, 5621-5635 also West Burlington
with Baldwin boilers as O-5A. As they were converted to oil they became
O-5B. Is this all correct, if not what is the correct chain of events.

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