The CB&Q waycar classes don't mean much as the cars were rebuilt so much over
the years.
Some of the cars date back to the 1870s and looked very much different when
built; what we know as the classic CB&Q waycar (like the Walthers HO car) is
the latest development. The earliest cars had very narrow, tall, and small
(length) cupolas. The stereo shot of the yards outside the Aurora Roundhouse
(as part of the Library of Congress documentation of the Aurora Shops) shows
strings of bobber, side door and regular waycars with such cupolas and I
believe two of the drawings in John White's freight car book are of CB&Q cars
(one without a cupola).
It is difficult to try to draw any generalizations about the architecture of
the CB&Q waycar beyond the broad classification of side window type; the equal
four pane type (most often associated with the 28 Ft three window type and
their stretched incarnations) and the taller two short two tall rectangle
style typical of 30 Ft four window types. There were many styles of side
sheathing height, cupola, eave board, and marker/signal light arrangements over
the years. There were at least three different steel underframes; the type
applied to cars so equipped when built, the 30 Ft type applied to former
truss-rodded cars (a number of the 28 Ft cars were "stretched" to fit on these,
either before or after the window group), and the 28 Ft type applied to the 28
Ft cars.
There were oddballs which got the "wrong" window style applied (presumably as a
result of rebuilding) but there might have been a reason they were done that
way beyond convenience. There were also some three window cars built with
four window characteristics.
Even the No.7 truck was not on some of the early cars... some of the 28 Ft 3
window cars were delivered on wood bolster archbar trucks.
More research needs to be done on the subject... if only we had a book.....
Charlie Vlk
----- Original Message -----
From: John D. Mitchell, Jr.
To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 12:49 PM
Subject: Re: [CBQ] NE-1, NE-2, NE-4, NE-7, NE-8 or NE9
All of the waycars in the post 1920's, had steel underframes. They either
were built with them or they were applied later.The only way to tell the
classes apart is to have a number roster. Some NE-1's had three windows but not
nearly all. So make them whatever class you want by using the right numbers. Go
to the BRHS website for a roster. BTW, all of the wood waycars had Sharon
couplers and these were a weak link. It was easy to pull a Sharon coupler.
From: Nelson Moyer <ku0a@mchsi.com>
To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 12:14 PM
Subject: [CBQ] NE-1, NE-2, NE-4, NE-7, NE-8 or NE9
I have three Walthers 932-7560 four window wood cabooses that resemble the
photos I've seen of NE-1, NE-2, NE-4, NE-7, NE-8 and NE-9 way cars. Are
there any external spotting features to differentiate these five classes?
They all look pretty much the same to me. I have the number series for each
class, and I can't decide which series to use for a 1949-1953 vintage
layout. I don't have build dates or retirement dates for each class.
I know that some of the four window 30 ft. NE-1 way cars were rebuilt with
steel frames, and these cars lasted into the late 1960s. Color photos of
NE-2, NE-4, NE-7, NE-8 and NE-9 way cars taken in the 1960 up to 1970 appear
in Spoor's CB&Q Color Guide to Freight and Passenger Equipment, so some cars
of each class survived past the steam era.
I'd appreciate any information that would guide me into detailing, painting,
and decaling these models.
Nelson
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