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RE: [CBQ] Re: Minot, ND Hump Yard

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Subject: RE: [CBQ] Re: Minot, ND Hump Yard
From: Frederick Ripley <fjr68@live.com>
Date: Mon, 7 Mar 2011 07:48:29 -0600
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List, 
Pre-merger, was there any regular run-through of CB&Q/GN power through the Twin 
Cities?  If so, it would seem Gavin would have been the logicalturn-around 
point for any CB&Q power that made it onto the GN.  In any event, it seems 
Gavin would have been the logical classification point for large blocks of 
traffic to/from the CB&Q.
Fred R.




Gavin was designed in the early 50's and dedicated in '56.  At that time,

there was no guarantee that the "Northern Lines" merger would ever be

accomplished. While collectively the roads were all pushing for the merger,

there was no guarantee if and when it would come to pass.  As a result, each

line had to plan for its own future.  Gavin was conceived and designed to

improve delivery times across the GN system by reducing the need for

detailed classification in the Twin Cities, and on the west end of the

system.  To that end it succeeded remarkably well.  



In his original post, Bill suggested that the Hill lines made multiple bad

decisions, and cited Gavin as an example. All the responses have been based

on post merger observations, when BN had options available to it that GN

didn't when the decision to build Gavin was made. Furthermore, as I've

commented previously, the decision to build Gavin was based on the traffic

as it was known and projected in the 50's.  To use post merger observations

to invalidate decisions based on the realities of the early 50's doesn't cut

it.



I haven't yet seen any citations or links to information that would validate

the original assertion that the Hill lines in general made bad decisions, or

that specifically that the GN's decision to build Gavin was a bad decision

based on what was known about traffic patterns at the time the decision was

made.



One other comment - an empty or near empty yard isn't necessarily a sign of

lack of business - it can also be the sign of a darn good yardmaster.



Best regards,



Steve Haas

Snoqualmie, WA





    
     

    
    






                                          

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