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Re: [CBQ] Passenger service Step offs

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Thanks Leo...for a "put up job" you "done good"....I had often wondered how the 
pay arrangement was taken care of on those type of "self interest" 
agreements...They sure required everybody's cooperation since the "real person" 
was sometimes "someone else"...Of course that was much more common 35-40 years 
ago as you indicated.

Pete






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From: qutlx1 <qutlx1@aol.com>
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Sent: Sun, Dec 19, 2010 9:44 pm
Subject: [CBQ] Passenger service Step offs


 

OK Pete you put me up to it.

Again w/o getting into specific details here's how "step offs" worked. 
First and foremost keep in mind that these were written local agreements 
between local management and the lodge. These were done as a convenience to the 
crews at no cost to the company.

This simplest step off I can relate was at Aurora. If you were coming east 
on a "Northern Passenger turn" or a "Mainline passenger turn" and 
approaching Aurora your counterpart on the opposite side would be standing on 
the 
platform at Aurora.in uniform .You stepped off and he stepped on to finish 
the last 38 miles into CUS. You stayed on the timeslip to CUS. The guy 
stepping on performed you're duties but didn't get paid. Tomorrow you did the 
same thing for him.


Why ? Because you both saved the slow commute to CUS in and out on the 
dinkies. If you're guy wasn't there you had to complete the run. This would 
happen with extra men who weren't familiar with the routine and if the caller 
didn't advise him of the practice.

Often if crews were ordered to protect extras or specials out of CUS they 
would meet a eastbound at Aurora and work in on it instead of deadheading 
on the dinky.If the working crew didnt have a step off because of 
scheduling issues they would this particular day. It was all part of the 
brotherhood 
understanding.

Another step off was at Galesburg. It gets more complicated so bear with me 
and if I mess up any of the points those in the "know" are free to correct 
me(after all this has not existed for about 35-40 years).

At Galesburg there was not only the Galesburg lodge but also an Aurora 
lodge based there. These men protected the mainline frt pool to Cicero,local 
service to Mendota and the mainline passenger pool if their seniority 
entilted them. How ? The job was advertised as an Aurora Div job and these men 
were carried on the Aurora Div senioirty list in order of their hire/promotion 
date just like men at Aurora. In fact they often bumped into Aurora when 
the mainline pool would contract with the business cycle. I recall a number 
of Aurora Div.engineers based at Galesburg who came to Aurora on a semi 
regular basis and lived out of their mobile homes.

Mainline passenger pool jobs started out of CUS. But you live in Galesburg 
and can hold a mainline passenger turn. Do you want to commute from 
Galesburg to CUS every other day and then back ? Not if you can avoid it.

Thus the Galesburg step off came into being. Lets say your protecting jobs 
that run CUS-Burlington. Tonight you are scheduled to be on a train out of 
CUS. So you meet your counterpart as he comes east into Galesburg. He steps 
off and you step on to fill his spot to CUS. Then work from CUS to 
Burlington tonight and home tomorrow on your assigned turn. As you approach 
Galesburg eastbound tomorrow your counterpart steps on and you step off.
Each of you saves the long commute from CUS to GT. On these runs this means 
well over 50% of the job mileage is filled by men who are not "officially" 
there.

Problems would develop if trains ran late,extra men were involved,etc. In 
the late 70s the Galesburg step off got to be an issue as #5/6 were often 
so late the hog law would catch up with step off crews or they couldn't get 
to Chicago in time to protect thei own assingment.
But for the most part these step offs and many others worked well and the 
men made them work in their own self interests.

Leo Phillipp 



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