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RE: [CBQ] BN Waycar Color (1970)

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Subject: RE: [CBQ] BN Waycar Color (1970)
From: Gerald & Virginia Edgar <vje68@hotmail.com>
Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2010 14:40:00 -0500
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Per you photo & many others we have all seen, Cascade Green could & did fade, 
more rapidly on wood than steel so varying shades can be seen in photos - all 
would be correct.  This fading is especially true with CB&Q MoW equip - wood 
cars became almost yellow while some steel stayed a  true orange.


Gerald 
 



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From: Llarryo1@aol.com
Date: Fri, 16 Jul 2010 20:14:10 -0400
Subject: Re: [CBQ] BN Waycar Color (1970)

  



Gerald, Archie, and Verlin,

Thank you for your information. We knew it was built in the first decade, 
but didn't know what year. Also, it was assumed that it was built at Aurora, 
but not confirmed.

I knew that BN engines were painted "Cascade Green", but didn't know if 
other greens were used for other equipment.

This waycar is currently in BN livery. Stencils on the car indicate that 
the work was done in Dec, 1970.
It was sold at auction to benefit (PBS-TV) WTTW-Channel 11, Chicago, in 
early 1971. It was bought by Brooks McCormick, CEO of International Harvester 
and moved to his property in June, 1971.
(I'm thinking that his lawyer's offices were in Prospect Heights.) 
A newspaper clipping from The Beacon News (Aurora) dated June 3, 1971, 
shows the waycar being moved on dollies down Winfield Road to it's new home at 
St. James Farm, Warrenville, IL. "Caboose Had Green Light" was the 
headline. It is in BN livery in the photo and numbered 14351.

I see that the Friends of the BN website list the number as (11087). With 
the numbers in parenthesis, I wonder if that means that the number was 
assigned, but never applied.

St James Farm was private property, but is now open free to the public. Ask 
for the Manager, my nephew Wayne.

If anyone want to see her, the correct address is:
St James Farm
27w376 Hoy Ave
Warrenville, IL 60555

(Uncle)Larry Owen 



In a message dated 7/16/2010 2:04:20 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
verlinwhite@sbcglobal.net writes:

Larry,

The green was called Cascade green which is = (give or take a few FS #'s) 
to John Deere Green.
The ends where Safety Yellow, roofs where Silver ( later changed to 
Cascade Green), Logo and lettering was White.
Hope this helps.

Verlin White
Lewistown, Il.

--- On Fri, 7/16/10, archie hayden <_kliner@mywdo.com_ 
(mailto:kliner@mywdo.com) > wrote:

From: archie hayden <_kliner@mywdo.com_ (mailto:kliner@mywdo.com) >
Subject: Re: [CBQ] BN Waycar Color (1970)
To: _CBQ@yahoogroups.com_ (mailto:CBQ@yahoogroups.com) 
Date: Friday, July 16, 2010, 9:22 AM

Larry, The waycar book lists this car as Aurora built in 1906 and 
numbered as BN 11087 at the merger. It was donated to a cause in Jan 
of 1971 and auctioned off by television station WTTW in Chicago in 
1977 to a private individual in Prospects Heights, Il. It may have 
never worn the green which I always heard was called Cascade green. 
Hope this helps, Archie Hayden
On Jul 15, 2010, at 2:58 PM, brkfldboy wrote:

> In the first year after the BN merger several waycars were painted 
> green. Does anyone know the correct name of this color for waycars? 
> Do we know the paint manufacturer? Is a paint formula available?
>
> I'm asking this for the DuPage County Forest Preserve District who 
> have waycar 14351 displayed at St. James Farm, Warrenville, Il. 
> (about 9 miles away from the Fall Meet in Geneva) and they are about 
> to repaint it.
> They would like to paint it correctly in it's last service livery.
>
> They are also looking for an accurate history of this waycar and 
> welcome our members to come visit her. It was private property that 
> is now open to the public.
>
> Larry Owen
> Bolingbrook, Il
>
>
> 
>

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