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Date: Tue, 4 May 2010 19:15:21 +0000 (UTC)
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The Burlington served a lot of small colleges and universities in Illinois and 
Iowa.  In 1965, the Sunday after Thanksgiving, #11 which served Galesburg, 
Monmouth, Mt Pleasant and Fairfield Iowa (to name a few), used commuter coaches 
to handle the college students returning to school after the Thanksgiving 
vacation.  I rode in a commuter coach twice while I attended college in 
Fairfield, Iowa and didn't notice the small seats, and less leg room.  Once a 
slumbercoach was used for extra space on #12. I was just glad to be able to use 
the Burlington when I went away to college.  The commuter cars would end up in 
Lincoln with another load of students from Omaha and then deadheat back to 
Chicago, maybe on the Ak-Sar-Ben Zephyr.  Jules Johnson                    ---- 
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From: William Barber 
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Sent: Tue, 4 May 2010 14:33:52 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: Re: Commuter coaches on the Ak Sar Ben Zephyr in 1965 (was Re: [CBQ] 
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Stephen,



There is a link with the photo that provides the complete caption. It  


indicates that the Q was receiving a new order of gallery cars  


including the cab cars when this photo was taken. At that time,  


Illinois tax law imposed sales tax on all new locomotives (and  


cars?)  that were accepted for delivery within the state. To avoid  


the tax, RRs that could, would take delivery outside the state,  


sometimes even hauling them through the state for delivery in another  


state. It was Q practice to accept delivery in Lincoln, NE where the  


new equipment was also weighed to accommodate union pay agreements.  


The photo caption indicates the the gallery car is enroute to Chicago  


after acceptance at Lincoln. If you enlarge the photo, you can see  


that it is operating as part of the head end consist. You can see  


that there are baggage cars both in front of and behind the gallery  


car.  (There appears to be a Havelock baggage car immediately behind  


it and possibly two more head end cars.) I am sure it is operating as  


a non revenue car on this trip.



Bill Barber


Gravois Mills, MO



On May 4, 2010, at 4:26 AM, CBQ@yahoogroups.com wrote:



> Commuter coaches on the Ak Sar Ben Zephyr in 1965 (was Re: [CBQ] Re:


> Posted by: "Stephen Levine" sjl_prodigynet@yahoo.com   sjl_prodigynet


> Mon May 3, 2010 12:37 pm (PDT)


>


>


>


> It is interesting that the eastbound Ak Sar Ben Zephyr  picture at  


> Naperville shows it to be carrying 2 bilevel commuter coaches.   


> Anyone know the story behind these?



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