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Re: [CBQ] Re:59'0 car named Omaha

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Subject: Re: [CBQ] Re:59'0 car named Omaha
From: Bob Webber <cz17@comcast.net>
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2009 16:46:52 -0500
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If it isn't a rebuild, then it is likely the car was wrecked / 
destroyed.  The next possibility is sold to a railroad / 
Pullman/Railroad Association (like the Pullman UP or 
Pullman/MP).  There are lots of examples in the Lot list of duplicate 
named cars within a couple of years of each other.  Ofttimes, there 
was a technical improvement (vestibules, wide vestibules, SUF, SUF, 
sheathing, etc.) that induced a new Plan and a "newly" built car that 
was basically the same car, rebuilt.  The first Pullmans built in 
Denver are indicated as being rebuilts, though there is some conflict 
with contemporary news accounts (the definition of new, rebuild, and 
Lots and Plans is often an issue between news, trade and company records).

In fact, the 1902 car was built for the Pullman/MP Assoc.

BUT - the name OMAHA does not necessarily pertain to a Pullman 
operated or owned car.  It could be a UP, CRIP, MP or other railroad 
owned car.  It might not even *BE* a Pullman built car.  There are 
simply too many unknown variables to determine the car from a rather 
common name.


At 02:39 PM 8/20/2009, you wrote:
>Several questions:
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>Does the /66 mean that the car was built in 1866?  /00 built in 1900?
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>It looks like Pullman had one car named Omaha built in 1900 and 
>another in 1902.  What happened to the 1900 car (I doubt Pullman 
>would have had two cars of the same name simultaneously).
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>--- On Thu, 8/20/09, Bill Glick <Qglick@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>From: Bill Glick <Qglick@hotmail.com>
>Subject: [CBQ] Re:59'0 car named Omaha
>To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
>Date: Thursday, August 20, 2009, 1:27 PM
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>In the book Century of Pullman Cars by Ralph Barger There are 5 cars 
>with the name "OMAHA"
>OMAHA 14SecO C&NW Ry/GMP built /66 plan 20
>OMAHA 14SecDr Pullman /00 " 1515B
>OMAHA 12SecDr Pullman 5/1/02 " 1581B
>OMAHA 10SecO Wagner /66 " 3003
>OMAHA #63 12SecDr CRI&P Assn 3/6/82 " 527
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>Hope this helps .
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>Yours
>Bill Glick
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