Just for the record, all those question marks some or all of you are seeing in
the note I just posted were inserted by whatever Yahoo does to process this
list. I think the only ones that are mine are in "(1920? 1924?)".
Could our worthy list moderator explain what's up with this and whether it
affects all browsers or is specific to how one posts?
Regards,
Bill
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> Greetings all:
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> Asleep at the switch here, or at least slow on the reply button.? Also had to
> generate the fortitude to sign up with Yahoo again after bailing several
> years ago account increased junk mail.? We'll see how it goes this time.
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> There's been a lot of good data and photos posted to the BRHS Yahoo site and
> mentioned on this list recently, so that finally drew me in tonight.? Thanks
> to all who took the time to upload stuff and especially those feeding my
> particular jones for Oregon, Illinois.? If I can get my act together, I'll
> add some of the photos I've shared privately with people over the years.?
> Until then here are a few of comments on the photos and on the Oregon
> waycar.? These are based mostly on memory with a quick check of a couple of
> sources.? Your corrections and additional commentary solicited.
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> First the aerial photographs of the Quaker Oats building opened in 1947 and
> known as the Quaker Central Shop...
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> In the photo looking from southeast to northwest with the Quaker building in
> the foreground directly across the street from the west end of the Burlington
> depot? is a house on the corner with a car in the driveway.? I'm pretty sure
> that is where conductor Jim Kereven lived from somewhere around the time
> Oregon got the Forreston local job that had moved briefly to Rochelle when
> the west end of the original C&I was pulled up to Mt. Morris.? So say
> somewhere in the late 1930s-early 40s until his death in the late '60s.
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> Directly across from Kereven's house on the other corner and opposite the
> streetside entrance to the depot waiting room is a two-story house with a
> white roof.? That place had a little lunch counter and sold snacks, sodas and
> other stuff for travelers.? I was in there with some regularity as a kid in
> the late '50s-middle '60s when hanging out at the depot or just peddling
> through the neighborhood with an extra dime in my pocket.? Somewhere I
> vaguely recall hearing something about the place having rented rooms at some
> point, but don't quote me on that.
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> Note the depot is about a mile from the center of the Oregon business
> district and was considered out in the country when the C&I came through in
> 1871.? The original Oregon town site sits on something of a hill, so the C&I
> surveyors staked a better grade that still serves today.? There was some
> grumbling about the location, but the hotels downtown dutifully sent hacks to
> meet the trains.? Downtown also had a corner bar at 3rd and Washington called
> the C&I Tap, which the railroad may or may not have appreciated.? If the
> house across from the depot did rent rooms, it could have been for people not
> wanting the better accommodations downtown.? Also could have rented to
> railroaders laying over or assigned there, which certainly would have been an
> easy crew call.? Perhaps someone on this list could clarify that since I
> don't think I have anything specific in my research.
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> Oregon in the C&I and maybe the CB&N era is supposed to have had a wye south
> of the tracks either at the east end of the yard near the river or more in
> the center opposite the depot.? Don't seen any signs of old roadbed like that
> in either of the Quaker Oats aerials.
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> And the Oregon waycar...
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> The waycar was pretty much a permanent fixture at the stub end of the loading
> dock on the main line the freight house.? That made it a convenient perch to
> watch trains from the cupola after I'd dropped by to say hi to station agent
> Sharick.? Kereven thought the waycar just got in the way, so it would sit
> there until a shop date came up when another one was hauled out from Eola to
> sit their until its next shop date.
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> The only time I recall seeing a waycar used by the Oregon crew was when we
> rounded up 10 or so neighborhood kids for a ride to Mount Morris where our
> parents picked us up.? I can only speculate as to Kereven's reaction when he
> heard about that extra load and switch moves.? Otherwise a ticket (50 cents
> roundtrip, as I recall) bought you a ride in the cab or on the deck of the
> NW2 switcher or in an open and empty boxcar.
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> Sometime around May 1968 a switching move shoved the waycar off the end of
> the freight-dock track and into the freight house itself.? I don't remember
> the story on that or how the investigation turned out.? We had moved away by
> then, so all I saw was the fresh repairs that summer in the southwest corner
> of the building and roof.? After that they started parking the waycar just
> across from the depot on the yard track occupied by the MOW equipment in the
> Quaker Oats aerials.
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> The freight house was the remains of the C&I depot that burned ca. 1914
> (details and a photo or two from the fire were on the Oregon depot
> restoration web site last time I checked).? The fire wrecked the east end of
> the depot, and what could be salvaged from the west end was moved and patched
> up to become the freight house.
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> That fire got Oregon the new depot that is still standing and is perhaps a
> little grander than it might have been because Congressman Frank Lowden lived
> on an estate across Rock River.? Lowden was elected governor of Illinois a
> couple of years after the fire, was a serious candidate for the Republican
> presidential nomination (1920? 1924?) and was married to a daughter of George
> Pullman.? Heard or read Lowden parked a private car at the Oregon depot when
> he was home, and I would presume some visitors to the estate did the same.?
> There was a wooden Q waycar on the estate that in my era was used by Lowden's
> son-in-law for his poker games.? By that time the estate was a commercial
> forest and timber operation, and we'd go there to get our Christmas trees.
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> One quick comment on Harris' nice shots of the 5632 in Oregon in 1962.? I,
> too, recall a westbound appearing suddenly and scattering railfans but
> couldn't tell you which trip it was or even be positive it involved a fan
> trip at all.? But I do remember agent Sharick running out of the station in a
> panic and moving people back from the track as the Empire Builder blasted
> through town.
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> 'Nuf for now.
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> Bill
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> Bill Diven
> Placitas, New Mexico
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> From: Russ Strodtz <normansen@...>
> To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
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> > Nice shots of part of Oregon !
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> > The State of Maine car is a newsprint/paper car headed for Kable(note the
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