Hol
I beg to differ with your statement that..."at least there was always a firemen
hanging out the window"..
The whole idea of using the motorcars for switchers was that they weighed less
than 90,000lbs and therefor under the 1937?? agreement didn't require a fireman.
Summer of 1956 I worked for two weeks the Hastings NE-Huntley NE local three
days a week we made the Hastings-Huntley turn and two days we ran mainline
Hastings to Sutton and then north to Lushton, back to Sutton and then south to
Clay Center....Our power was the 9769.?? To my everlasting regret I never rode
the cab on that job...We used a standard waycar and always had? short train
therefore both brakeman always rode the waycar.
At Huntley the Q had constructed a WYE when the line was abandoned in the early
1940's where we turned the motor...Also there was a Wye at Lushton...At Clay
Center there was no wye....We backed up from Clay Center to Sutton waycar first.
I think that the 9769 was a "double end" machine, but our engineer never
changed ends or maybe the controls on the "rear" end were inoperable.
There was no complicated switching and we never really had any problems...The
only difficulty appeared when some of the elevators on the Huntley line started
to "load heavy" and the tonnage would be too much for the MC...As I recall we
were limited to 5 cars or 238 tons.? The crew always said when they had too
much tonnage they would query the DS as to what they should do and were..always
told "well take what you can"...When the elevators loading began it was
necessary to deadhead a fireman out from Lincoln and use the 9135 for the
Huntley turn...That limited our speed to 10mph on he 56 lb rail and made for
some long days...(Nice overtime though)
The last time I saw the 9769 was at Sutton, NE in August 56 with a burned out
traction motor....
The car was ultimately sold to the Iowa Southern Utilities RR at Centerville in
1966, IIRC...I think it was scrapped there.
Pete
-----Original Message-----
From: Norm Metcalf <n.metcalf@worldnet.att.net>
To: cbq@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 9:38 am
Subject: Re: [CBQ] Motor cars as switchers (ex herald)
HOL WAGNER wrote:
> Rupert:
>
> They had to be difficult to use in switching, especially the 70-foot
> cars (though 60-footers wouldn't have been much better). I was in the
> cab of 9768 a number of times, and visibility to the rear was
> non-existent without hanging out the window. At least in that era there
> was always a fireman on the other side to hang out that window! Crews
> were well known for hating to switch with F-units because of the poor
> visibility, and the motor cars were even worse; the F's at least had
> rear-view mirrors.
>
> Hol
>
>
> Rupert & Maureen wrote:
> > Hol
> >
> > Thanks for the confirmation on the paint scheme, and assignment.
> >
> > I've often wondered how well these motor cars handled switching
> duties,
> > given the configuration of the cab and controls, the overall
> length and the
> > lack of rear visibility. I haven't researched as such those that
> were
> > assigned to / used for switching duties, but they certainly
> weren't all
> > double-ended - 9768 being a good example.
> >
> > Rupert Gamlen
> > Auckland NZ
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Norm Metcalf" <n.metcalf@worldnet.att.net
> <mailto:n.metcalf@worldnet.att.net>>
> > To: <cbq@yahoogroups.com <mailto:cbq@yahoogroups.com>>
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 11, 2009 6:50 AM
> > Subject: Re: [CBQ] Motor car herald
> >
> >
> >> HOL WAGNER wrote:
> >>> Rupert:
> >>>
> >>> And Nolen beat me to the punch; I was going to tell you that
> 9768, after
> >>> leaving its Colorado assignment between Sterling and Cheyenne,
> Wyo., was
> >>> sent east to Galesburg, where the front end was repainted
> Pullman green
> >>> and the Scotchlite Burlington Route heralds applied beneath the cab
> >>> windows. It was then assigned to switching service in Peoria,
> where it
> >>> replaced Midwest centercab 9123.
> >>>
> >>> Hol
> >>>
> >>> > Rupert & Maureen wrote:
> >>> > Nolen has pointed out that Pullman green is a more
> logical colour
> >>> for this
> >>> > unit instead of black and I totally agree. My apologies.
> >>> >
> >>> > Rupert Gamlen
> >>> > Auckland NZ
> >>> >
> >>> > ----- Original Message -----
> >>> > From: "Rupert & Maureen" <gamlenz@ihug.co.nz
> <mailto:gamlenz@ihug.co.nz>
> >>> <mailto:gamlenz@ihug.co.nz>>
> >>> > To: "CBQ List" <CBQ@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:CBQ@yahoogroups.com> <mailto:CBQ@yahoogroups.com>>
> >>> > Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 5:18 PM
> >>> > Subject: [CBQ] Motor car herald
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> Looking at Don Ross' "Don's Depot" >
> >>> (http://donsdepot.donrossgroup.net/indexcbq.htm) I was
> surprised to see
> >>> a photo taken
> > at Peoria in March 1967 of motor car 9768 in
> >>> switching
> >>> >> service with end foot boards. Whilst a number of motor
> cars
> >>> ended their
> >>> >> days on switching duty, this is the first photo I can
> recall of
> >>> one
> >>> >> sporting a Burlington Route herald on the side of the
> cab below
> >>> the
> >>> >> window. Whilst heralds were the norm on steam motive
> power, I
> >>> can't
> >>> >> recollect or find another photo of a motor car so adorned.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Although it is a black & white photo, it appears that
> the unit
> >>> no longer has the red and yellow cab but is painted just
> black,
> >>> although
> >>> the border
> >>> >> of the herald looks to be lighter than the surrounding
> paint.
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Any others known?
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Rupert Gamlen
> >>> >> Auckland NZ
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