John,
For what it is worth: Model Railroading of June 2003 contains an article about
kitbashing C&S Cabooses using
MDC "Old Timer" cabooses (#3440-3444), which have the two windows per side of
the cupola although a bit short.
According to the article Walthers #700-7508 could also be
used but no details are given. Also included are 2 pics of
C&S # 10606 at CRM Golden. The trucks are a problem however: a search of the
Caboose Hobbies website does not yield T-section trucks with leafsprings; only
with coil springs.
Hope this is of any use.
Ben de Vries, the Netherlands
----- Original Message -----
From: Rob & Bev Manley
To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 11:28 PM
Subject: Re: [CBQ] Waycars
John,
For the wood beam trucks, you might try the parts bins at Caboose Hobbies or
buy some of the MDC Overton shortie coach kits. You might get them cheap enough
and use the bodies for a wayside structure/shed. I think those kits were $6.50
at one time and that's not a bad price to pay for the right trucks. I put a set
of these under one of my Oriental Limited brass waycars and replaced the
wheelsets with Intermountain's nickel silver replacements. The car rolls so
free you could actually kick switch it into a siding. Flea markets are a good
source for these too.
Another source would be the plastic NE-4s that Walthers has been dumping
lately. I think those are down to about $8 a car. Nice kits too especially if
you correct the cupola by removing the upper gutters from the cupola side
windows and put 3 guide wires on the smokejack. The trucks are UP prototypes
from what I heard.
I Googled C&S 10606 and found a site called Central California Rails Caboose
Index C that is full of CB&Q and C&S waycars.
http://cencalrails.railfan.net/cabooseC.html It may take a minute or so to open
up a photo but they are worth the wait.
The only Waycar book that has been actually published is Dan Holbrooks book.
Note that some of the drawings should be researched with appropriate photo
references. I almost threw out my 3 Brass NE-10s because the end drawing didn't
match the model. After comparing the model to the Galesburg waycar and another
I found in Minnesota I was much happier.
From what I know about the C&S cars they typically had the 2 windows on the
side of the cupola. MDC has a close enough one in plastic that you can find in
most of thier "western" caboose kits.
This would also be a good time to rekindle your friendship with Hol.
And now back to my freight cars,
Rob Manley
----- Original Message -----
From: railbass@comcast.net
To: cbq@yahoogroups.com
Cc: railbass@comcast.net
Sent: Tuesday, February 10, 2009 3:46 PM
Subject: [CBQ] Waycars
I have the AMB CB&Q wood waycar kits - 28' and 30'. I intend to build the 28'
kit as a C&S waycar, using #10606 at the Colo RR Museum as a reference The
Detail Associates AMB caboose detail kit - 229-550 - does that include
everything I need to detail these kits - such as brake gear, railings, brake
wheels, etc.? I am using the Kadee Bettendorf T trucks with leaf springs for
the C&S waycar. For the 30' waycar, AMB kits recommend the MDC wood beam
passenger trucks, but they appear to be no longer available. What is an
accurate and good running wood beam passenger truck that would be ideal for
this kit? I prefer metal wheels on all my rolling stock.
The cupolas of both kits have single side windows. #10606 has double windows,
but it also is painted in Chinese red, which is the paint scheme adopted in
1958. I am modeling the late 1940s and early 1950s, for which I assume the
paint scheme was mineral red, using Microscale's 87-1217 decals. Would this
type of waycar have double or single windows during that period? #10606 and
similar waycars were built in 1944. I know that D&RGW changed the number of
windows in the cupola over the years and thought that CB&Q or C&S might have
done the same thing. I am not going to the trouble of building double windows,
if single windows would be appropriate for the period.
What would be a good source of photos for Q and C&S waycars in the late
1940s? Has the long-awaited Q Waycar book been published yet? I have a number
of CB&Q/C&S steam and diesel models and would like to have the other end of the
train look as good as the front. AMB recommends Dan Holbrook and Steve Lorenz's
"Waycars of the CB&Q." Is this book available anywhere?
BTW, I have been very interested in the posts on the 1958 Broomfield wreck,
as that probably led to my railfan interest in the C&S. I went to high school
with Hol Wagner, and he took me on many fan trips with C&S #638 and the 1963
NRHS convention here.
- John Manion
Denver, CO
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