BRHSLIST
[Top] [All Lists]

Re: [SPAM][CBQ] Human Side-Chucking your Rights

To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [SPAM][CBQ] Human Side-Chucking your Rights
From: Jpslhedgpeth@aol.com
Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 17:08:46 -0500
Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys
Delivered-to: archives@nauer.org
Delivered-to: mailing list CBQ@yahoogroups.com
Domainkey-signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=lima; d=yahoogroups.com; b=i/m8yJdwb0PlV8kBSLZJqzbsvgZSxx1byR8802bt9v13uSl2xag9+tRQdgEkCWGt5eR9B8x/lgPggOUozblPuO7N4IId0U28jQofCJAoakHshZJHkIP6kvanZKRueiid;
In-reply-to: <001001c86daf$d7246490$5425ec18@HaydensRus>
List-id: <CBQ.yahoogroups.com>
List-unsubscribe: <mailto:CBQ-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com>
Mailing-list: list CBQ@yahoogroups.com; contact CBQ-owner@yahoogroups.com
References: <bef.219a56d2.34e30f68@aol.com> <001001c86daf$d7246490$5425ec18@HaydensRus>
Reply-to: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
Sender: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
Archie et al



I'll take a stab at "hog board"...Would it be the list of those who would make 
themselves available for "extra" service when needed in addition to their 
regular assignment?



Seems like I've heard the term "mileage board" which I think might be about the 
same thing.? 



Seems like I remember that, at least on the Lincoln Divsion engineers were, 
supposedly, limited to 2500 miles a month, but also seems like I recall 
conversations to the effect that when it came time to be "off on miles" they 
couldn't get off because there were no extra men available.



Pete


-----Original Message-----
From: Archie <kliner@mywdo.com>
To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 1:45 pm
Subject: Re: [SPAM][CBQ] Human Side-Chucking your Rights







Leo and group, Your example of the seniority of the switchman worked a little 
differently in the Hannibal yards, so maybe the local agreements differed from 
division to division. For instance, the switchman's board at Hannibal was a 
daily mark up and you just had to have your choice of shifts designated by 
midnight for the following day. When you did show up for the shift, you could 
choose whether you wanted to be foreman if you were the senior man or pass it 
up and work as a helper for that shift. Many times the two oldest men passed on 
the foreman's job if the workload looked real heavy or if they wanted to stick 
it to the yardmaster and force a lesser experienced man to the foreman's 
position. Here is another quiz for the group. Has anyone ever heard of a hog 
board? No Gerald, it isn't a 2 x 4 covered with bacon. Archie
----- Original Message ----- 
From: qutlx1@aol.com 
To: cbq@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2008 9:04 AM
Subject: [SPAM][CBQ] Human Side-Chucking your Rights

It's been two weeks and it looks like the prize for answering the "chucking 
your rights quiz" will go unclaimed. Nice try Brad as you got two questions 
right.

The answer key(at least my version):

1)Term for brakeman who chucked his rights(gave up Conds seniority) 
Answer=DRONE. (Look up the definition in the dictionary and if there's need for 
more 
discussion lets do so).
Why would he chuck his rights? Brad was correct and I'll elaborate. After 
years of working the extra list,nights,weekends,out of town based jobs the man 
has enough seniority(whiskers) to hold a nice daytime run. After a few months 
he gets his letter to take the Condrs exam and as soon as he passes it; he 
is placed at the bottom of the Condrs seniority list and starts the 
nights,weekend,extra list,etc all over again but now as the Condr. He can look 
forward 
to several more years of this before he can again hold any steady job with 
even remotely reasonable hours. So........... he says the hexx with this and 
relinquishes his right to promotion and stays where he is as a bkrmn and looks 
forward to only better runs in the future as a brkmn. 

2)Why was this practice so widespread on the Aurora Division? The Aurora 
zone manned all the passenger runs(after the Chicago road men and Aurora men 
made an agreement moving manning to Aurora,this is another whole separate 
story) and those along with many frt locals gave the man a steady job,often 
with 
preferred hours. 

3) Brads' example of George Thompson was a good one. Here's another one. In 
1974 or '75 a DRONE retired from a one round trip dinky. He had 41 or 42 years 
service of which 29 were on one round trip dinky assignments !

4) Downside? There were several. Someone working as a Condr,with higher 
seniority than you as a brkmn, could decide to chuck his rights and then bump 
you 
off your cush run. The cush runs could and were pulled off. Many who gave up 
their rights ended their careers on the dinkies when they had planned to 
spend their time in the passenger pools.

5) Rule 72c in the schedule covered this practice. Probably one of the most 
quoted clauses.

6)How did switchmans schedule accomplish same thing w/o giving up your 
foremans rights? The yardmen had a "bump" or bid every Friday for the next 
weeks 
jobs. You could bid based on your switchmans seniority rather than on your 
promotion date to foreman if you so chose. That way you could work as a helper 
on your preferred job while younger men were foreman on less desireable jobs. 
If you wanted to work as a foreman than you bid the foremans spot and if 
you're foreman seniority entitled you it was yours.

Leo Phillipp
Ps-The book "Rockefellers Secret Weapon" will go in the Spring Meet raffle 
prizes. 

**************The year's hottest artists on the red carpet at the Grammy 
Awards. Go to AOL Music. 
(http://music.aol.com/grammys?NCID=aolcmp00300000002565)

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



 

________________________________________________________________________
More new features than ever.  Check out the new AOL Mail ! - 
http://webmail.aol.com


[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]



 
Yahoo! Groups Links

<*> To visit your group on the web, go to:
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CBQ/

<*> Your email settings:
    Individual Email | Traditional

<*> To change settings online go to:
    http://groups.yahoo.com/group/CBQ/join
    (Yahoo! ID required)

<*> To change settings via email:
    mailto:CBQ-digest@yahoogroups.com 
    mailto:CBQ-fullfeatured@yahoogroups.com

<*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
    CBQ-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com

<*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to:
    http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
 

<Prev in Thread] Current Thread [Next in Thread>