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Re: [CBQ] Black 1960's Hoppers

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Subject: Re: [CBQ] Black 1960's Hoppers
From: Kenneth Martin <kmartin537@surewest.net>
Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2008 16:20:22 -0800
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   Paul,
I don't know if they weathered well or not, according to the Societies 
data sheet on triple hoppers they started painting the cars black in 
1962 to represent their assignment to coal service. In 1960 500 cars 
were built and painted Chinese red, while some were repainted black most 
stayed red through the BN merger.

I would say most triple hoppers for 1969 would be black but you would 
have some Chinese red cars and even a few mineral red as I saw a mineral 
red car after the merger.

Ken Martin


Paul K. wrote:

>Greetings,
>
>I was looking at the 5th Avenue Car Shops flyer recently and noticed a 
>statement there concerning the 'Q', 70 ton, 3-bay hopper car they're selling 
>which said:
>
>"...In late '62 paint (red/white/black herald)    In 1962 the 'Q' felt the 
>Chinese Red paint on hoppers failed to weather well.  Car number 170623"
>
>I hadn't heard this before so it brings up a couple questions I have, as my 
>layout will be set in 1969, a few months prior to the merger:
>
>Is this statement accurate?  I'm just wondering what the 'back story' is on 
>all this.
>
>At the date I'm modeling should there be a majority of the Chinese Red cars or 
>the Black cars?
>
>Are there any photos anyone knows of that show the Chinese Red paint on the 
>hoppers 'failed to weather well', as Jim S. indicates in the flyer?
>
>What type of brakes were used on these hoppers?
>
>Thanks to all in advance for your help and comments!
>
>--
>"Paul (Kossart) - The CB&Q Guy"
> Peru, IL *USA*
>(Modeling 1960's in HO.)  
>
>
>  
>



 
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