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The CZ through Pullan alternated between the NYC and PRR - I believe the PRR 
train was The General, though I'm away from my notes and would have to verify.  
But the cars went on bot NYC & PRR.  Too, there was a trhough Pullman from the 
NYC to the AT&SF, one from the Southern to the SP, several from the PRR to 
various UP trains, etc.   

You could also (if you knew the system) request space in specific CZ cars by 
virtue of using the loading number (CZ-8, CZ-9, CZ-10, etc.).  The main 
exception were the dome coaches (depending on season and year), as one was 
usually restricted to "shorts" - the same service the 16 section cars were 
assigned to when they were converted to coaches.   

> One interesting fact, the Pullman Company sold space, not a particular car 
> such as Silver Rapids. Thus a passenger could be riding in the CZ through 
> Pullman, Silver Rapids in the consist, and not be aboard Silver Rapids. In 
> the 
> BRHS Zephyr Mike Spoor used some train sheets I remember one was from the 
> American Royal Zephyr, and yes Silver Rapids was making a round trip 
> Chicago-KC, 
> then back into the CZ pool. Also the through Pullman when it would arrive or 
> depart Chicago alternated between the PRR and the NYC. Why this was done I 
> don't know, but when the CZ through Pullman was on the NYC, the through 
> Pullman 
> from the UP City of San Francisco was given to the PRR. 
> 
> Aboard the CZ the only way a passenger would know for sure which Pullman 
> space he/she would be assigned would be if they asked for the Drawing Room in 
> the observation. I'm sure that if a passenger requested Pullman space for 
> example close to the observation Pullman would make an attempt to place the 
> passenger in space nearest the observation. 
> 
> Just in Chicago the number of through Pullmans had to be an extremely 
> complex daily operation. Then ad in the "tour groups" which in some cases 
> filled 
> all the space in one or more Pullmans, it had to be an operation that boggles 
> the mind. And people today whine when their 737 is delayed 5 minutes! 
> 
> Loren Johnson 
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