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Subject: Re: [CBQ] MOW Cars
From: John Ziola <johnsclubs@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2007 10:57:15 -0700 (PDT)
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I too thank you both, for answers to Ken's and my question.
   
  John

Ken Currie <currieken@msn.com> wrote:
          Thanks, Rupert, and to Gerald, of course, for the original answer. It 
does help.

Ken

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Rupert & Maureen 
To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, April 21, 2007 3:14 PM
Subject: Re: [CBQ] MOW Cars

Ken & John

Gerald Edgar previously answered -

MOW car paint & numbers were not a high priority with BN initially for 
obvious reasons (i.e. revenue frt cars). However after a year or two they 
started using chocolate brown for most wood car repaints (& even some steel 
hwt's, tank cars & ex-steam tenders). In some cases the entire car was 
painted with a new BN # & BN rpt'g marks or in other cases they reprinted 
(but in new font) the predecessor road initials & #'s. In a few cases, in 
haste, the painters blocked out the area with the original road initials & 
#'s thus you would see a chocolate brown car with a Q MOW orange 'block' 
with original black lettering: CB&Q 2XXXXX. (BN uses 9000000 series).

Pre-BN I never saw a Q MoW car in brown. Wood equipment (ex-passenger & 
frt) was generally painted safety orange and ex-steel equipment was silver 
grey. (S.S. stayed stainless of course). The few exceptions were some tank 
cars & of course cranes, derricks & tenders that were painted black. A 
handful of flats in loco shop service were silver as opposed to the usual 
orange along with a couple oddball wood box cars in welding service, etc.

Going back further, Boxcar red was the MOW color into the early 1950's, 
lasting longer on Lines West than on Lines East. It speaks well of the Q 
that as a road long committed to safety, they were in the minority of RR's 
that began painting MOW equipment safety orange - increasingly the 
visibility of cars that might have men boarding or in some cases entire 
families.

The copies of Q internal correspondence that I have cite safety as the 
reason from the switch to orange paint (that often faded to yellow or 
yellow-orange). Other RR's used boxcar red, grey, silver & black right up 
to current times.

Gerald

Someone else (I failed to note who, my apologies) said

Generally, beginning in the early 50's, ex-frt cars in MoW service were 
nearly always orange but ex-pass cars could be orange or the silver/grey or 
original green. Tank cars could be orange, silver/grey or black, usually 
the difference being if in potable water service or other use (fuel, used 
oil, etc).

Hope this helps

Rupert Gamlen

Auckland NZ

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Ziola" <johnsclubs@sbcglobal.net>
To: <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2007 5:46 AM
Subject: Re: [CBQ] MOW Cars

> I'd like to add the 70's to the question.
> Thanks,
> John

>
> Ken Currie <currieken@msn.com> wrote:
> If this question has been asked and answered before, my apologies 
> for inflicting it on the group once more: what were the standard colors in 
> the 40s and 50s for CB&Q MOW cars? I would greatly appreciate any help 
> from the group.
>
> Ken Currie

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