I'd appreciate help from the many experts on the California Zephyr
out there on a source for the following information. I'd like to
like to identify exactly which consists and motive power were used
for the inaugural CZ runs of Trains 17 and 18 that departed Chicago
and Oakland respectively on March 20, 1949. For those interested in
my little research project, here's what my very non-expert research
has turned up so far and I'd like to fill in the blanks. Sources are
noted in parentheses:
TRAIN 18 MOTIVE POWER
-- Departing Oakland: WP F3 A/B/B set 803
(Portrait of a Silver Lady by
MacGregor, p. 138)
-- Meeting in Glenwood Canyon: D&RGW Alco PA/PB/PA set 601
painted black & yellow
(My guess since Story of the
California Zephyr by Zimmerman,
p. 29 shows the first meeting of
the two CZs. One CZ, which I
think is westbound, was headed by
a silver Alco set presumably 600.
D&RGW, I believe, had only had two
sets of Alco PA/PBs ? 600 & 601 ?
at that point and only 600 had
been repainted silver by March 20)
-- Arriving Chicago: CB&Q F3 A/B/A _________
TRAIN 18 11-CAR CONSIST (www.wplives.com)
1. Baggage CB&Q 903 Silver Bear
2. Vista Dome Coach WP 811 Silver Dollar
3. Vista Dome Coach CB&Q 4720 Silver Rifle
4. Vista Dome Coach D&RGW 1108 Silver Pony
5. Vista Dome Buffet WP 832 Silver Hostel
6. 10-6 Sleeper CB&Q 428 Silver Valley
7. 10-6 Sleeper D&RGW 1132 Silver Gorge
8. Diner WP 842 Silver Platter
9. 16-Section Sleeper CB&Q 401 Silver Larch
10. 10-6 Sleeper D&RGW 1134 Silver Glacier
11. Dome Observation WP 881 Silver Crescent
TRAIN 17 MOTIVE POWER
-- Departing Chicago: CB&Q F3 A/B/A set 9961
(Story of the California Zephyr by
Zimmerman, p. 28)
-- Meeting in Glenwood Canyon: D&RGW Alco PA/PB/PA set 600
painted silver with yellow nose
(My guess since Story of the
California Zephyr by Zimmerman,
p. 29 shows what I think was a
westbound CZ headed by a silver
Alco PA/PB/PA set presumably 600.
D&RGW, I believe, had only had two
sets of Alcos ? 600 & 601 ? at
that point and only 600 had been
repainted silver by March 20)
-- Arriving Oakland: WP _________
TRAIN 17 11-CAR CONSIST
1. Baggage _________________
2. Vista Dome Coach _________________
3. Vista Dome Coach _________________
4. Vista Dome Coach _________________
5. Vista Dome Buffet _________________
6. 10-6 Sleeper _________________
7. 10-6 Sleeper _________________
8. Diner _________________
9. 16-Section Sleeper _________________
10. 10-6 Sleeper _________________
11. Dome Observation _________________
Thanks for any assistance that anyone could provide, and I will share
the results in a file to be posted as a resource for the whole group.
Dan Russell
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