Ex Tourist car 1159, ex Pullman Tourist 1159 Lot 4565 Plan 2410F 13
Sect ex TALISMAN converted Aug 11 1941 built June 21 1920.
(you didn't include Jim on your email, so replying to all won't help)
At 09:40 AM 11/17/2006, Don Zinnecker wrote:
>I thought this might be of interest to some of you on the list. Can
>anyone provide historical information on this car? It appears that the
>last coat of paint the car received was M of W orange. Please respond
>to "all" so Jim Mayer will receive your comments.
>
>Thanks, Don
>
>--------- Forwarded message ----------
>From: "Mayer, James S \(GE Infra, Water\)" <James.Mayer@ge.com>
>Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 16:25:39 -0500
>Subject: A CB&Q Heavyweight Pullman
>
>You may remember that I contacted you recently with information on an
>existing Burlington Pullman car that apparently is not yet on your roster
>of Passenger Equipment. Here is the latest information I received today
>from my son Christopher who lives in Bozeman and who is also familiar
>with railroad equipment.
>
>-It is CB&Q 250259. It was in MOW service before retirement.
>-The date on the trucks is June 14, 1914 but we could not get an exact
>builders date.
>-Apparently there is now new fire damage, the roof is caving in, and a
>number of windows are now broken out. We are afraid the car is past the
>point of trying to salvage or preserve, and it may not be in existence
>for much longer.
>
>With the number we provided, can you determine any history on the car?
>If you are willing to share, we would be very interested in what you
>learn.
>
>We hope this helps,
>
>Jim Mayer
>
>*****************************************
>
>
> > Dear Don:
> >
> > You may not be aware of this but there is a former CB&Q heavyweight
>Pullman located in Bozeman, MT. It may be of interested to your
>organization. It probably is a 1920 vintage Pullman-built heavyweight
>passenger car, however it may be a bit earlier vintage. I believe it may
>have a wooden frame. I understand this would make it more rare than most
>heavyweight Pullmans.
> >
> > I have previously spoken with the owner a few times. The owner is
>interested in donating the car to a museum operation or similar and
>receiving the tax benefits. There are a few problems; 1) The car is no
>longer near a right-of-way but is about 1-2 miles from the nearest one.
>2) The car does have some FIRE damage but appears primarily to be intact.
> >
> > Do you have a possible interest in the car? It can be moved by truck
>to the rearest BNSF railhead as there a good roads in the area. It is
>also just a few miles from the nearest interstate highway.
> >
> > I never had a chance to inspect the fire damage myself but can arrange
>to have that done until I am in the area again. The fire was caused by a
>resident living in the car and is confimed to one small area of the car.
> >
> > I believe the car was last in MOW service before retirement.
> > I am not a member of your organization, but I am a former board member
>of a western railroad museum. I mention that fact just so you have an
>idea that I have some familiarity with rail equipment. My only interest
>in the car is to see if it possibly can be preserved. If the owner
>cannot donate the car, she will likely sell it for use with a store,
>restaurant, etc.
> >
> > Thank you,
> >
> > Jim Mayer
> > james.mayer@ge.com
> > james.mayer@yahoo.com
> >
> >
>
>
>
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