Paul,
I was going to respond earlier but Russ beat me to it. He's right in that
up till the mid to late 70's, almost all grain on secondary and branch lines
moved in the 40' boxes. The big, modern covered hoppers in grain service were
usually used at the big elevators on the main lines.
I spoke with Richard Kistler a while back and he related as to how during
the early years of the big grain export program around '70 and '71, anything
that could hold grain was pressed into service. He recalled seeing stockcars
with the insides covered with plywood and even old modified refrigerator cars
in use on the Neb. branches.
Bob
Russell Strodtz <19main@groundcontrol.us> wrote: Paul,
From my experience most of the elevators in Northern Illinois
were boxcar only until they quit rail usage altogether, And,
as I have said before, the car's roadname was not even a factor
in regards to who loaded it. A 40' box car is a 40' box car.
Since the CB&Q had a rather large fleet of 40' box cars they
would be in the majority but I don't think they were ever used
to the exclusion of anything else.
The early three bay covered hoppers were very seldom used for
basic grains. Since they were new a great deal of effort was
made to find them higher rated commodities. Grain products
like grits, soybean meal, or feed were usually loaded in these
cars, along with minerals and industrial products like petroleum
coke.
The first large 200M covered hoppers are sort of a mystery. There
must have been some favored, high output elevator somewhere that
got them in quantity but I don't know where it was. By the BN era
they had come up with CSD435 which was intended to keep cars on
their owner's property. This was really a major error as it did
not lead to the build-up of a large national fleet as had existed
with 40' box cars. Everyone started rationing the larger and newer
cars and the customers just plain quit shipping rail. It took until
the late 80's to reverse that trend and the only way it was done
was by guarantying the customers would get the cars as ordered.
Now pricing and car supply are linked. They do not sell service
for which they can not provide cars.
Russ
----- Original Message -----
From: Paul K.
To: cbQ@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, 28 November, 2005 00:46
Subject: [CBQ] Covered Hoppers For Grain
All,
I need to buy several models of these cars (HO) for my rural, line located
in north central Illinois off the double-track main roughly halfway between
Chicago and Galesburg. My free-lanced branchline on the layout is imagined to
be located probably close to where Neponset might be situated in the "real"
world.
Since I am modeling the CB&Q in the late 1960's, I naturally already have
a majority of Burlington's cars to be used to service the elevators and local
related grain industry customers on the line.
My question is that at the LHS I see cars lettered for several grain
dealers, haulers, etc., and was wondering if I should just get a mix of most
of these to round out my fleet, or would only a couple names be used in a
specific area or part of the country meaning I would have to buy several of
the same few named cars?
Does anyone know what names would be used in my modeled area of Lines East?
Thanks . . .
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