This has been discussed many time before. Have never liked the
Railfan concept of "Pool Power". The word "Pool" in a railroad
sense means something totally different and is still in use
today but has nothing to do with locomotives.
The whole idea here was that PRR,NYC,EL,and later PC liked to
get their deliveries blocked and with road power as they were
not switched in the Chicago Area.
Item 1: No CB&Q/BN road crew would ride in any of the Eastern
Road's cabooses. They would be collected at Cicero and used by
transfer crews or just sent back. CB&Q/BN road crews would use
UP waycars and they were also sent East of Chicago.
Item 2: The concept that foreign locomotives had to be used on
some particular train never really existed. Once your locomotives
are on another railroad they may use them as they please. This
has evolved to today's concept of "Generic Locomotives". Current
practice is that the ownership of a locomotive does not even
matter with regards to train assignments.
Item 3: The answer to both of your questions would be "Yes" but
in neither case would that be any guarantee that the train
actually originated at Cicero. Seeing D&RGW or UP power on a
CB&Q/BN train coming into Cicero was not a way of identifying
the train. Power was often exchanged at Hobson or Willis Yard.
Now a locomotive story: IHB Chief Dispatcher rings me and gives
me two BN engine numbers and asks "what model". They were both
GP7's. I tell him and ask where they were. He says "they came
into Gibson from Elkhart and are going over to the old MC engine
terminal at Blue Island for service". This was normal procedure
and normally would mean they would be going back East. This deal
did not sound right as we were not "Pooling" with Conrail at that
point in time and did not have any leased out. Call my boss, the
Trainmaster at the hump tower, and tell him the story. He tells
me that they were short on trailer flats and there were many stored
on Conrail in the Chicago area. I already knew of both facts. He
told me Conrail had begged a lack of yard power to bring us flats.
They had ran those two units down to 59th Street and Conrail was
going to send them back with the flats but they were a "no show".
I told them where they really were and their prognosis for the near
future and that was that.
Was told the next night that within a couple of hours of our
conversation there was a Hostler at Blue Island to take the units
to 59th Street. We got our trailer flats later the same day.
That's the way it goes,
Russ
----- Original Message -----
From: rail2fly
To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, 28 October, 2005 12:46
Subject: [CBQ] RE:NYC/PENN CENTRAL POOL POWER
HI. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF IT WAS UNUSUAL TO SEE A PENN CENTRAL
DIESEL OR NEW YORK DIESEL HEAD END POWER RUNS FROM GALESBURG OR ST.
PAUL USING CB&Q WAYCARS TO ELKHART IND? OR IF CB&Q MOTORS ON RUNS TO
ELKHART IND USING PENN CENTRAL CABOOSES? THANK YOU FOR ANY INFORMATION.
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