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Re: [CBQ] Council Bluffs Info Wanted

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From: Russell Strodtz <19main@groundcontrol.us>
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 20:10:14 -0500
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Tom,

Questions 1 thru 4 no answer. Know nothing about the operation
of these trains.

Question 5. Most of the time they did not. Stock car usage was
seasonal and might require large numbers of cars that would be
for short periods and many of the hauls would be fairly short.
A lot of range cattle and sheep were kept on public land in the
Summer and were moved around every Spring and Fall.

By the late 20's most roads had substantial fleets of stock cars.
They were cheap to build and with the nature of livestock loading
would last a long time. Would just be stored until needed.

In the case of the movement of hogs from the Midwest to Tobin
Packing at West Albany and Rochester that Customer was willing to
make a commitment to rail service long after many others had gone
to trucks. In exchange the CB&Q built 100 cars and both the CB&Q
and NYC leased excess Mather 50' double decks from North American.
This was a 12 month deal and the Railroads must have felt is was
worth the investment. Penn Central put an end to that business.

Russ

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Tom 
  To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, 24 August, 2005 18:34
  Subject: [CBQ] Council Bluffs Info Wanted


  Hello All,
  That is an interesting topic on the reefers and it brings up a 
  couple of questions of my own.
  1. Is there a book out there with that info? I'm interested in
  the 
  Omaha/ Council Bluffs area in the late 60's. 
  2. From the Operating Data Sheet book, train 119 C.B. to Lincoln, 
  had auto parts for Denver.
  Does anyone know where these cars originated & who brought them to 
  C.B.? 
  3. It also had bottles for Colorado Springs. Does anyone know where 
  these cars originated & who brought them to C.B?   
  I would think these cars originated offline anyway or I don't
  know 
  why they would bring them to 
  C.B. from Pacific Jct.
  4. I'm also assuming that 119 & 120 used UP's bridge to cross
  the 
  Missouri River since they 
            had setouts/ pickups at S. Omaha.  
  5. Also, did livestock cars roam the country like boxcars?  

  Thanks,
  Tom





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