I am interested in purchasing a Q timetable late 50s for K line. Please drop
me a line with price.
Thank you
Hank
CBQ@yahoogroups.com wrote:
There are 7 messages in this issue.
Topics in this digest:
1. Re: CB&Q SW1 9147 question
From: "Bob Yarger"
2. Re: CB&Q SW1 9147 question
From: "Bob Yarger"
3. Re: Digest Number 2488
From: clipperw@EarthLink.net
4. Re: Digest Number 2488
From: clipperw@EarthLink.net
5. (unknown)
From: JAS SCHWARZ
6. BRHS Meet and Items for sale
From: JAS SCHWARZ
7. Re: Digest Number 2487
From: "graywolfs2"
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2005 08:11:36 -0400
From: "Bob Yarger"
Subject: Re: CB&Q SW1 9147 question
Don't know, but you might inquire on this group, which has some dealings
with industrial switchers. Lots of engines like that are now at grain
elevators, etc., to move cars, so it could have survived. I think there may
be an industrial locomotive site on the Yahoo groups also.
Bob Yarger, Editor
Railway Preservation News (free website)
www.rypn.org
----- Original Message -----
From: "D C"
To:
Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2005 11:46 PM
Subject: [CBQ] CB&Q SW1 9147 question
> Hi all. I was wondering if anyone knew what happened to the Deadwood/
> Kirk/Lead,SD switcher CB&Q SW1 9147 (BN 91) after its sale in 1983. More
> importantly, who bought it, where it may be or when it was scrapped.
>
> I am trying to get as much info on this engine as possible so I can
effectively
> model it in HO scale.
>
> Thanks,
>
> DC
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2005 09:28:14 -0400
From: "Bob Yarger"
Subject: Re: CB&Q SW1 9147 question
Sorry, here's the link:
http://finance.groups.yahoo.com/group/EMDswitchers/
Bob Yarger, Editor
Railway Preservation News (free website)
www.rypn.org
----- Original Message -----
From: "Bob Yarger"
To:
Sent: Sunday, August 07, 2005 8:11 AM
Subject: Re: [CBQ] CB&Q SW1 9147 question
> Don't know, but you might inquire on this group, which has some dealings
> with industrial switchers. Lots of engines like that are now at grain
> elevators, etc., to move cars, so it could have survived. I think there
may
> be an industrial locomotive site on the Yahoo groups also.
>
> Bob Yarger, Editor
> Railway Preservation News (free website)
> www.rypn.org
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "D C"
> To:
> Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2005 11:46 PM
> Subject: [CBQ] CB&Q SW1 9147 question
>
>
> > Hi all. I was wondering if anyone knew what happened to the Deadwood/
> > Kirk/Lead,SD switcher CB&Q SW1 9147 (BN 91) after its sale in 1983. More
> > importantly, who bought it, where it may be or when it was scrapped.
> >
> > I am trying to get as much info on this engine as possible so I can
> effectively
> > model it in HO scale.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > DC
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> > Yahoo! Groups Links
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2005 10:07:49 -0500
From: clipperw@EarthLink.net
Subject: Re: Digest Number 2488
Leo, Bob and Tom,
Keep in mind that when the Denver Shop was painting smokeboxes and
fireboxes silver in the late '50s, they were also painting cab roofs
chinese red (YUK!). Witness photos of 5632 after visiting Denver.
Actually, when they painted the smokeboxes and fireboxes silver, they
defeated the purpose of the graphite. I am sure they used heat
resistant silver paint, but they were now painting the locomotives for
decorative rather than practical purposes. The graphite (and oil that
it was mixed with to make it flow for application purposes) was applied
to the surfaces when they were hot, not cold (smokeboxes and fireboxes
on Q locomotives were not lagged and thus were very hot when the
locomotive was under steam). That way, the oil dissipated and the
graphite literally melted onto the surface. I have heard that if
graphite was applied "cold", it would not adhere.
As for the color, think ground up pencil lead or the graphite that can
be purchased at auto parts stores for lubricant purposes. Normally, it
is a dry powder. As noted above, the oil component made it spray-able
for application. I have seen photos of it being applied and smoke was
raising from the surface which, I am sure, is the oil component burning
off. Generally, when freshly applied, it was a relatively light gray
color, but as the locomotive continued in service, it darkened,
primarily due to the environment it operated in. Generally, soot and
cinders from the stack "rained" down on it blackening and streaking it.
Rain water carried the soot down the sides, further darkening it. Thus,
in photos, it appeared to be a variety of colors and largely was
dependent on how recently it was coated.
For modeling purposes, and probably for the painting of 4978, I have
successfully mixed flat black and flat silver to obtain a very
reasonable replication of the color. Since the locomotive is not hot
(darn!) and real graphite can't be used, a paint mixture would be the
next best choice. In any case, except for a few locomotives assigned to
Denver in the late '50s, silver is not correct. Now, what color are
they going to use for the cab roof?
Bill Barber
On Sunday, August 7, 2005, at 04:52 AM, CBQ@yahoogroups.com wrote:
> Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2005 17:20:36 -0400
> From: "Bob Yarger"
> Subject: Re: Smoke box color (and fire box too)
>
> Sorry, I did not read your post carefully. Only photos 1957 and later
> (C&S)
> would be aluminum. Older photos that appear white are probably just
> the
> result of films at the time, or perhaps yellow camera filters, which
> some
> photographers used to bring out clouds, etc., in b&w photos. What
> brand is
> your P48 0-4? I didn't know that any were made, though there were some
> plain O scale USRA 2-8-2 heavies imported.
>
> Bob Yarger, Editor
> Railway Preservation News (free website)
> www.rypn.org
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "captmix"
> To:
> Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2005 2:34 PM
> Subject: [CBQ] Smoke box color (and fire box too)
>
>
> This is a question I have asked before.what is that "color" on the
> smoke box and fire box. In fact I have just painted a P48 scale USRA
> O-4 Class engine. I "fiddled" with some mixtures to try and duplicate
> what that color was. In all those pictures by Corbin, Perry, and
> others, the Burlington smoke boxes sure looked a shade of "white" even
> back in the 20's. Even some color shots like in Bulletin #35 show a
> white shade.
>
> I do have a color VCR tape of C&S steamers and in that are two
> engines, one C&S and one CB&Q, side by side, and the Burlington engine
> is a definite gray while the C&S is white. This was in the late 50's.
> But could all those B&W photos from years gone by be wrong? Do I have
> to repaint that O-4?
>
> Tom Mix
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2005 09:40:22 -0500
From: clipperw@EarthLink.net
Subject: Re: Digest Number 2488
DC,
Joe Douda, who lives in Westmont, IL and who is a long time Q historian
probably knows more about that locomotive than any other individual in
the world. Joe's favorite portion of the RR is the Black Hills
operation and he has spent many years researching it. The 9147 is his
favorite, however, if memory serves, I believe it was scrapped during
the 1970s. Unfortunately, I have Joe's snail mail address, but not an
e-mail address.
Bill Barber
On Sunday, August 7, 2005, at 04:52 AM, CBQ@yahoogroups.com wrote:
> Date: Sun, 07 Aug 2005 03:46:02 -0000
> From: "D C"
> Subject: CB&Q SW1 9147 question
>
> Hi all. I was wondering if anyone knew what happened to the Deadwood/
> Kirk/Lead,SD switcher CB&Q SW1 9147 (BN 91) after its sale in 1983.
> More
> importantly, who bought it, where it may be or when it was scrapped.
>
> I am trying to get as much info on this engine as possible so I can
> effectively
> model it in HO scale.
>
> Thanks,
>
> DC
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2005 13:48:13 -0700 (PDT)
From: JAS SCHWARZ
Subject: (unknown)
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2005 14:32:13 -0700 (PDT)
From: JAS SCHWARZ
Subject: BRHS Meet and Items for sale
Everyone,
I plan to attend the BRHS meeting in Dubuque this
September. I will have the following BRHS items for
sale, as I am "thinning out" my collection.
Books: Author:
The Early Zephyrs G H Doughty
Locomotives Road Name Producer
EMD F-3A - 135-A C B & Q Athearn - Genesis
EMD F-3B - 135-B C B & Q Athearn - Genesis
EMD F-7A - 164-A C B & Q Athearn - Genesis
EMD SW-7 Switcher CB&Q Athearn
Rolling Stock Road Name Producer
Special Edition - 250 Ton Crane - 204376 CB&Q End Cab
Models
Special Edition - 250 Ton Crane - 204375 CB&Q End Cab
Models
Box Car - 50' - 1997 Special - 6 Car Set CB&Q Athearn
- 1A
Box Car - 50' - 1997 Special - 6 Car Set CB&Q Athearn
- 2A
Box Car - 50' - 1997 Special - 6 Car Set CB&Q Athearn
- 3A
Box Car - 50' - 1997 Special - 6 Car Set CB&Q Athearn
- 1B
Box Car - 50' - 1997 Special - 6 Car Set CB&Q Athearn
- 2B
Box Car - 50' - 1997 Special - 6 Car Set C&S Athearn -
3B
Tank Car - 12,500 Gallon - 4 Car Set CB&Q End Cab
Models
Tank Car - 12,500 Gallon - 4 Car Set CB&Q End Cab
Models
Tank Car - 12,500 Gallon - 4 Car Set CB&Q End Cab
Models
Tank Car - 12,500 Gallon - 4 Car Set CB&Q End Cab
Models
Hopper, Covered, PS-2, 3 Bay - 6 Car Set - 1996
Special Car CB&Q ConCor - 1A
Hopper, Covered, PS-2, 3 Bay - 6 Car Set - 1996
Special Car CB&Q ConCor - 1B
Hopper, Covered, PS-2, 3 Bay - 6 Car Set - 1996
Special Car CB&Q ConCor - 2A
Hopper, Covered, PS-2, 3 Bay - 6 Car Set - 1996
Special Car CB&Q ConCor - 2B
Hopper, Covered, PS-2, 3 Bay - 6 Car Set - 1996
Special Car CB&Q ConCor - 3A
Hopper, Covered, PS-2, 3 Bay - 6 Car Set - 1996
Special Car CB&Q ConCor - 3B
Reefer, Wood - 6 Car Set - 1998 Special C&S Accurail
Reefer, Wood - 6 Car Set - 1998 Special FWD Accurail
Reefer, Wood - 6 Car Set - 1998 Special CB&Q Accurail
Reefer, Wood - 6 Car Set - 1998 Special CB&Q Accurail
Reefer, Wood - 6 Car Set - 1998 Special CB&Q Accurail
Reefer, Wood - 6 Car Set - 1998 Special CB&Q Accurail
Hopper, Airslide - 4 Car Set Burlington End
Cab/Con-Cor
Hopper, Airslide - 4 Car Set Burlington End
Cab/Con-Cor
Hopper, Airslide - 4 Car Set Burlington End
Cab/Con-Cor
Hopper, Airslide - 4 Car Set Burlington End
Cab/Con-Cor
Hopper - 40' - 3 Bay Offset Burlington End Cab/Stewart
Hopper - 40' - 3 Bay Offset Burlington End Cab/Stewart
Hopper - 40' - 3 Bay Offset Burlington End Cab/Stewart
Hopper - 40' - 3 Bay Offset Burlington End Cab/Stewart
Hopper - 40' - 3 Bay Offset C & S End Cab/Stewart
Hopper - 40' - 3 Bay Offset C & S End Cab/Stewart
Caboose, Wood - 4 Window (Brass) - 13919 CB&Q Signal
House
Baggage Car, Havelock - Fan Trip CB&Q IHC
Decal Set CB&Q BRHS
Buildings Producer
West Burlington Depot Q" Conection Ltd Laser Kit
Anyone interested in "pre-purchasing" any of the above
items an contact me at jas.schwarz@sbcglobal.net, or
(630) 896-4077. Hope to see you there!!!
Jim Schwarz
BRHS member
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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 07 Aug 2005 23:44:53 -0000
From: "graywolfs2"
Subject: Re: Digest Number 2487
Hi Bob,
>From what I was able to find in my research for the previous post,
here are the numbers and some info on single stack engines.
9352 - Single stack, no radio, one of three engines that worked
Lincoln NE from 12-43 to 1-44. The photo of this particular engine
is in Hub of Burlington Lines West, pg 138. The caption for this
photo, however, states that the picture was taken at Galesburg in
1949.
9370 - Single stack, w/radio and wagon wheel antenna. This photo was
taken 1-1961 at Cicero Yard. Photo is found on page 17 in M. Spoors
CB&Q in Color, Vol. #1.
9372 - Same as above, but photo date is 12-1963. Same book.
I'm sorry, but I do not have a list of sorts, just had some free
time to do the research to answer Simons post.
If I find or hear anything else, I'll be sure to send it to you.
Greg K.
Minnesota
--- In CBQ@yahoogroups.com, amtrak347@a... wrote:
> In a message dated 8/6/2005 5:56:40 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
> CBQ@yahoogroups.com writes:
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> of the 30 VO-1000's owned by the "Q" only 17 were modified to a 4
> stack design,
>
>
>
> Greg -
>
> 17 out of 30 makes a majority of those that were 4-stackers, but
was
> wondering what the numbers were of the 13 that weren't converted?
Do you have a
> list? My books aren't "handy" at the moment. Thanks.
>
> Bob Campbell
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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