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Subject: Re: [CBQ] One More Symbol
From: "Steven Holding" <s.holding@charter.net>
Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 23:16:26 -0600
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On the East End(Chicago to Aurora) we use a lot of short turns for the
relief assignments between Eola and Chicago( Cicero Yard,  Clearing Yard, IC
Yard at Markham, CSXT at 59th, Barr or else were)often more then one
roundtrip if they are lucky.  These are often used in place of the old time
use of yard crews for interchange movements.
sjh
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Russell Strodtz" <vlbg@earthlink.net>
To: <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 9:04 AM
Subject: Re: [CBQ] One More Symbol


> Rupert,
>
> Not that I can think of. How these terms are used is
> sort of a Regional or Railroad thing.
>
> Every time you move to a different territory there are
> always a few ways you have to alter your language to
> communicate properly. For example on the McCook job
> you have yard engines on 3rd shift 5 nights a week and
> a Roadswitcher at Crete 6 nights a week. If you want
> to get along with those crews you have to use different
> terminology at all three places. As in:
>
> Crete    = "BNSF 2160"
> Hastings = "Hastings Switcher"
> McCook   = "McCook Yard Foreman"
>
> If you do not chose to call crews what they want to be
> called there will be a subtle drop in cooperation.
>
> Most of the places I've had to interface with "The Big
> Road" they used the terminology; "Patch Crew" But where
> does that come from? Could be UP-MP-C&NW-D&RGW-MKT-SP-WP.
> Could also be that those roads used different terms and
> as people who used them retire some system wide usage
> will take over.
>
> Moving back to the BNSF since the BN merger took place so
> long ago that process had already happened. The GN-NP-CB&Q
> were not all that different in their languages anyway.
> The SLSF had it's own way of speaking and will probably
> continue to do so. Have never Dispatched a SLSF territory
> and probably never will. As to the AT&SF they were probably
> pretty close to the CB&Q usage.
>
> Here are some terms. If you look at them they are similar.
>
> Dog Catch                  = Everyone seems to understand.
> Hog Law                    = The hours of service regulation.
> Die                        = Run out of time on above [expire].
> Dog Catch Crew             = Has been covered.
> Patch Crew                 = Covered in this e-mail.
> Dog Catch, Multiple Trips  = This is a Lincoln thing. Have never
>                              heard it used elsewhere.
> Relief Crew                = More of a "Official term" but if you
>                              use it almost everyone understands.
> Hog Lawed                  = Turning a noun into a verb.
> Dog Caught                 = Turning a noun into a verb.
>
> I'm sure there are many more but this may get someone who
> understands the backgrounds contribute a little knowledge.
>
> Russ
> ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Rupert and Maureen
>   To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Wednesday, 28 January, 2004 00:51
>   Subject: Re: [CBQ] One More Symbol
>
>
>   Russ
>
>   Thanks for the explanation of these terms. Is there any history behind
the
>   "dog catches" terminology?
>
>   Rupert
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: "Russell Strodtz" <vlbg@earthlink.net>
>   To: "CB&Q Yahoo Group" <CBQ@yahoogroups.com>
>   Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 12:55 AM
>   Subject: [CBQ] One More Symbol
>
>
>   > Rupert,
>   >
>   > Left one out.
>   >
>   > A = Passenger train.
>   >
>   > Russ
>   >
>
>
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