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Re: [CBQ] Re: Broadway Limited 2-8-2

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Subject: Re: [CBQ] Re: Broadway Limited 2-8-2
From: "Jan Kohl" <jkohl@nc.rr.com>
Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2004 13:12:38 -0500
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Rick, I'm enjoying mine, hope you get one too!  And I hope and pray that you 
make it back safely, 
thanks for your service to the US Military and for America!

Jan Kohl
ex-USAF Aircraft Weapons/Command & Control
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Rick Keil 
  To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 12:52 PM
  Subject: RE: [CBQ] Re: Broadway Limited 2-8-2


  Thanks for all the info.  What the heck, it probably happened at least once 
  and if not, oh well!  We'll see if it is indeed under my Christmas tree as I 
  am heading out beautiful (not) Iraq.  Again, thanks for the answers.

  Rick Keil


  >From: "bigbearoak" <jonathanharris@earthlink.net>
  >Reply-To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
  >To: CBQ@yahoogroups.com
  >Subject: [CBQ] Re: Broadway Limited 2-8-2
  >Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2003 22:08:13 -0000
  >
  >Sorry about that. I had trouble sending the message to this new
  >address for some reason. Here it is.
  >
  >Hi Rick --
  >
  >As a wheel arrangement, the 2-8-2 was THE general-purpose
  >freight engine on the Burlington (i.e., used in both through and
  >way freight service). Also the most numerous. The CB&Q, C&S
  >and FW&D together had more than 500 in service.
  >
  >The 0-1s were the earliest and most common of the Burlington's
  >mikes and were to be found all over the system. They were light
  >enough for some branch-line work, and many also ended up in
  >switching and transfer service. Very occasionally, you would even
  >see one as a substitute passenger engine.
  >
  >The bigger, beefier O-2s and O-3s were mainline drag-freight
  >engines, too heavy for much branchline track, and too slow for
  >manifest freight work.
  >
  >The O-4s -- which is what Broadway Ltd. is importing -- were the
  >smallest class (only 20 engines -- 15 for the CB&Q, 5 for the
  >FW&D). They were standard USRA-design heavy freight engines.
  >They started out on the Lines East, many in the coal fields of
  >southern Illinois, where they proved too slippery for moving heavy
  >coal drags, and by the end of the 1920s the entire class had
  >been sent west to work on the Sheridan, Casper, and Alliance
  >divisions, for which the whole lot of them were converted to burn
  >oil. They seem to have been pretty successful out west, working
  >mostly in mainline freight service. A good number of them were
  >leased to the C&S and FW&D (which, as noted, had 5 of its own),
  >and a half-dozen actually were bought outright by the C&S from
  >the parent company in the late 1950s and re-lettered and
  >re-numbered for the C&S. On the two subsidiary roads, they
  >lasted until (almost) 1960 and were indeed some of the last
  >steam engines operated on the Burlington system. I don't know
  >about their doing any passenger service, but it's possible
  >(though certainly rare). But they did almost everything else. From
  >your point of view, what's nice is that you can use them plausibly
  >in the company of your first-generation diesels -- as a switcher or
  >transfer engine, as a helper or double-headed with an SD-9 in
  >mainline service, or as an independent part of your
  >general-service pool. They even got out onto some branch line
  >trackage (e.g., for the sugar beet harvest).
  >
  >The only caveats, if you're a stickler for "authenticity," are that
  >-- at
  >least after about 1930 -- (1) these were exclusively Lines West
  >engines; (2) they were oil burners; and (3) the CB&Q engines all
  >had feedwater heating systems (the FW&D engines didn't,
  >though). I can't be sure, but my impression is that Broadway is
  >importing them more-or-less "as built" (i.e., as coal burners with
  >only injectors), so you may need to invest a little time in updating
  >them. Other than that, they look like thoroughly neat models.
  >
  >Good luck to you in Iraq. I hope you are home soon.
  >Jonathan
  >
  > >
  > >All, greetings from northern Iraq. In anticipaton of getting a
  >Broadway
  > >Limited 2-8-2 for a (late) Christmas present, how were the
  >2-8-2s used by
  > >the Q? I normally model the various diesels but have decided to
  >branch out
  > >a bit. Did the Q ever use this engine type for passenger
  >operations as it
  > >might look nice with the new Branchline heavyweight cars.
  >Thanks and Happy
  > >New Year.
  > >
  > >Rick Keil
  > >
  > >
  >
  >
  >
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