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Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 19:59:33 -0000
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  Merry Christmas!  Am again going to offer some distilled data (the uncommon 
kind!) for all the modelers and fans on the list for your 
use at this time of year.  But 1st a commercial.  

  I heartily agree with Dave's praise of Rupert for the labor of love he does 
in compiling and enumerating all the data & photos from our 
BRHS publications so that when you or I want to see a photo or info on a 
particular piece of rolling stock, depot, etc. we do NOT have 
to thumb thru multiple issues of Zephyrs, BB's, etc.  If you have ever done 
work like this (i.e. CAREFULLY reading and pulling out all 
the info from a magazine), you know how tedious it is, especially if done well. 
 Thanks Rupert!  Which speaks to an issue with BRHS. 
 
  Too few members do far too much work!  Some have 'burnt out' & are inactive.  
Have you done your bit to help?  Yes, paying dues is 
important (very important!) but the nature of a volunteer group is that the 
"product" not only needs $$$ to be published and mailed 
& to hold meets BUT also needs YOUR time & talent to make it run.  This is NOT 
Model Railroader or Railfan magazine - info in ALL 
BRHS publications is only as complete as there are members to assist in sharing 
information. Meets are as good as there are mbrs 
volunteering.  We also need each of us to recruit members, etc to insure the 
long term health of BRHS AND to bring in more sources 
of info.  Yes, I know a common reply is "I'm too young to recall anything about 
the Burlington OR I only have a couple timetables or 
one OER".  Fine, but do you share what ever you do have?  Some have very 
extensive collections of Q items; that said I am always 
finding "new" things from other members who have far smaller collections.  No 
one member "has it all" - the one bit of info you have 
may be the piece needed!  Don't be shy, share what you have. Example: Rupert is 
also coming up with an all-time list of CB&Q freight 
cars, much of the data coming from OER's.  Yes despite his requests for copies 
of Burlington pages to glean info from, how many of 
the 650 mbrs of this Yahoo group or the 1500 mbrs of BRHS (many the same I 
realize) have responded?  Only have 1 OER or maybe 
don't have any but know someone who does?  How about emailing Rupert with the 
date(s) you have access to & see if he needs it?  
We all benefit because a Society is only as good as the cumulative efforts of 
its members!   Thus ends my sermon for the year.... 
Thanks for listening!

  Ever wonder why foreign road emptys appear to be going in the wrong 
direction?  How should you group foreign emptys on your 
layout to be prototypical to Burlington practice?  Herein the answer:  (from 
May 1, 1940 CB&Q Distribution Chart for Agts, etc.)

  Foreign road emptys might go the "wrong way' if a) picking up a load going to 
a point on said foreign road or b) there is shortage of 
such cars on the host road or c) being sent to a designated collection point 
for that railroad.  The Burlington, traditionally a car-rich 
road, kept a sufficient fleet of suitable cars for most of its loadings.  This 
meant a larger investment in equipment but also happier 
customers and more earnings from frt car rentals & per diem payments). And of 
course the Q, as true of most RR's with sufficient 
equipment of their own, would quickly send MTY foreign cars home to save on per 
diems and to keep ladings to themself for max. 
income.  (which contributed to the 106 yrs without missing a dividend!)
  Connecting foreign roads would have (per Car Service Rules & a common stencil 
on  frt cars) cars routed to the nearest interchange 
point or best return route.  I.E. if a GN box was emptied in Kansas City, it 
would be sent to Sioux City; if emptied in Dubuque, it would 
be sent to St. Paul; in either case the closest interchange & best route.  Car 
Service Rules listed the Junction Points to be used.  
(NOTE: not ALL junctions between railroads were normally used as interchange 
points).  But what of the many RR's that did NOT 
directly interchange with the Burlington???  Where to send an empty BAR reefer? 
 Why might it be seen traveling west on the Q?
 The Q placed all non-connecting foreign roads into 6 groups: #1 Eastern,  #2 
Northern, #3 Northwestern; #4 Western; #5 South & SW
& #6 South & SE.  Following are the CB&Q points to which said road's MTY cars 
were to be routed & some examples of such RR's:

#1 - Beardstown, Chicago, Congress Park, Eola, Litchfield, Peoria, Streator, 
Smithboro, Sorento, St. Louis & Zearing (ACY, D&H, 
MEC, NYO&W, WM)
#2 - Billings, Clinton, Council Bluffs, Des Moines, Dubuque, Galena, Laurel, 
Monmouth, Omaha, Peoria, Sioux City, Sterling, 
Tri-Cities (Davenport/Moline/Rock Island) & Mpls/St. Paul (Algoma Central, CN*, 
DW&P, DM&IR)
#3 - Billings, Council Bluffs, Denver, Laurel, Omaha, Sioux City, Mpls/St. Paul 
(CP*, OSL*. SP&S*)
#4 - Denver & all Missouri River Jcts (FtW&D*, OSL*, WP)
#5 - Atchison, Beatrice, Concordia, Denver, K.C., Leavenworth, St. Joe, St.L 
(KO&G, T&P, WV*)
#6 - Centralia, K.C., Litchfield, Paducah,Smithboro, Sorento, St.L.  (ACL, 
CofG, FEC, SAL)
      NOTE: several Q points (Billings, K.C. etc) collected cars for 2 
geographic areas

*several RR's could have their cars sent to points in more than 1 regional 
collection group: Barre & Chelsea 1 & 2; Butte, Anaconda & 
Pacific, Mt., Wyo & So., SP&S 2 & 3; CN, CP 1, 2 & 3; OSL, OWR&N 3 & 4; SP 3, 4 
& 5; Ft Smith & W, FtW&D, GC&SF, Mid 
Term, SD&AE, WV 4 & 5; LH&StL, N&S, N&W, VGN 1 & 6.

Again, Merry Christmas as you sort out your freight car blocks!   Gerald




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