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From: "thommack" <mack@chmack.com>
Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 23:02:35 -0000
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Folks:

I took the liberty to contact Rob Pisani (e-mail: rob@atlasrr.com) 
at Atlas about the Hart Selective Ballast Car paint issue. Atlas is 
very committed to making sure the model is prototypically correct 
and they are definitely open to our help. I will be more than happy 
to make sure info gets through to Rob, but here is our chance to 
make sure this car is exactly what we HO Burlington modelers need. 
Pictures are probably the most important commodity right now. 
Anyway, here is Rob's reply to my e-mail sent today (I might add Rob 
responded same day, so this is important to Atlas):


Tom,

Thanks for your message.  You are actually not the first person to 
relate this information to me.  I have already responded to the 
others, but I'm not sure if they will post my reply to the list.  
You may relate my comments to the list to clear matters up, and to 
possibly get an answer to one question (below).

Artwork for this car was developed using actual ACF builder's 
photos, which show the cars as built in 1941.  It appears that the 
scheme referenced by Russ below is actually a later scheme.

According to one source, these cars were painted "CB&Q Standard Red" 
when built in 1941.  I now have conflicting information as to 
whether this matches the "red-brown" color of the pre-production 
sample, or if it should be the darker "mineral red" color that the 
CNW and SPS cars have.  If anyone on the list can help clarify this, 
I would appreciate it!

Please keep in mind I have already mentioned this to others, so you 
may see it posted by someone else, as well.

Regards,

Rob Pisani
Atlas Model Railroad Co.
www.atlasrr.com


-----Original Message-----
From: Tom Mack [mailto:tmack@chmack.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2003 12:58 PM
To: Rob Pisani
Subject: New Hart Ballast cars - CB&Q
Importance: High

 

Thanks for the announcement regarding the new Hart Ballast Car in 
CB&Q paint. There were two posts on the Burlington Yahoo Groups web 
site that I would like to call your attention. Maybe you could help 
clarify the issue, since I'm sure Atlas did their homework.

First Post: 

   Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 15:59:00 -0800 (PST) 
   From: jeff worones <jworones@yahoo.com> 
Subject: Atlas Q Hart Ballast cars 

Hi all; 

Just got an Atlas news flash that will make everyone happy.... 

A mineral red Q paint job on the Hart ballast car! Cut and paste the 
link below into the address line of your browser. Be sure to get the 
whole thing - the text may have wrapped to the next line.

My question- 
Would this scheme still be acceptable for the late 1960's or should 
I stick with my undecs and paint them orange? 

Thanks! 
Jeff Worones 
Las Vegas, NV 

 

Second Post: 

   Date: Mon, 8 Dec 2003 18:38:16 -0600 
   From: "Russell Strodtz" <vlbg@earthlink.net> 
Subject: Re: Atlas Q Hart Ballast cars 

Jeff, 

Never saw a car in that series painted either the Atlas color or 
orange.  Go to the SP&S car on that page and you will be close to 
the right color.

Also never saw a car with trucks painted to match the car sides. 
Only one "loading line" on car. They had at least two, slag, and 
sand or gravel. Not very sure about the herald either. I know the 
composites were just white with no black background, would have to 
say these would be the same. Even in the mid sixties some of these 
cars were so beat up that they had lost most of their lettering. A 
few were so bad that you had to do a memory job on a rollby check. 
You can't look at both sides and both ends while the train is moving.

Some of these cars were still in ballast or beet service into the 
early 80's. Some with patch BN numbers but some without.

Can not see the quality of the casting of the doors from those 
photos. That is the real test of a model of this type of car. As for 
paint scheme if they were working from a photo it was not of a 
typical, or possibly any, car.

Russ  

 

End of Posts 

I would be happy to post your reply to the site as I know a lot of 
us are drooling over this new car and ready to place our orders 
(count me in for all 6).

 

Tom Mack 
Cincinnati, Ohio 
mack@chmack.com 



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