Pete,
In answer to your second question...I grew up in Torrington, Wyoming, the site
of a Holly Sugar factory. While it was actually located on the U.P., beets
came in from the north side of the North Platte river on the CB&Q. Some were
hauled in from as far away as Casper and Riverton, WY (about 250 miles). These
came in fairly large blocks of 20-30 cars. Upon arrival in Torrington, they
were often frozen solid and unloaded with the help of a propane "flamethrower"
and sledge hammers applied to the cars sides. No wonder the railroad
designated old cars for beet service! Those from the local sidings
(Wheatland, Ft. Laramie, Lingle, etc.) came in groups of 8 to 12 cars. These
cars were unloaded in Torrington just south of the CB&Q depot and the beets
were loaded onto Holly Sugar trucks to be hauled across the river to the
factory.
In all cases, that I can remember, these cars were hauled in mixed freight
trains. I recall old twin hoppers, sometimes wood-sided, as the primary type
of car used in this area, during the middle to late 60s, for beet service.
Just as an aside. Beet pulp, was left over as a bi-product after the sugar had
been removed. It was used as cattle feed. Most all sugar factories, that I
was aware of during the CB&Q era, had adjacent feedlots, where the pulp was
used to fatten cattle. Now you can have an excuse to put some stock cars to
use.
I have just recently modeled a sugar factory complex in HO. I would be glad to
share information and any memories of Wyoming in the 60s.
Rick Patterson
Worland, Wyoming (also the site of a sugar factory served by the CB&Q)
----- Original Message -----
From: Rawil Ismail
To: BRHSlist@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2003 10:36 AM
Subject: [BRHSlist] Accuracy of Walthers CB&Q Sugar Beet Quad Hoppers?
Can anyone provide a quick assessment on how accurate the Walthers HO Quad
hoppers are for CB&Q sugar beet service cars?
A picture of the model at:
http://www.walthers.com/exec/productinfo/932-49481
does look similar to CB&Q 161319 at:
http://rr-fallenflags.org/cbq/cbq161319ajs.jpg
but I don't have measurements or indications from the photo that the car was
used in sugar beet service.
Also, in what general time frame were these cars used, and would you see
them in large blocks or mixed with other types of sugar beet cars?
I'm sure some of my questions could be answered by the sugar beet issue of
the Burlington Bulletin --- anyone know where I could buy a copy?
Thanks!
Pete Ismail
Colorado Springs, CO
- considering a layout based on the CB&Q in Wyoming sugar beet country
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