Bill,
Understood. What is significant for my purposes is that
the B/N's were not used. I'm interested in all orders that
had B/N's assigned but not used.
Russ
----- Original Message -----
From: "William Barber" <clipperw@E...>
To: <BRHSlist@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, 01 May, 2003 09:58
Subject: [BRHSlist] Re:Cancelled CB&Q Orders
> Russ - Be careful reading EMD "E" orders. They were created for
> production convenience and often do not reflect the actual build. "E"
> orders were (are?) taken out as soon as an sales inquiry is received.
> In the early stages, it is just a file to collect any information that
> Sales Engineering received or created. If a bid is made, there is a
> corresponding "E" order. This is long before an order is finalized.
> There were many more "E" orders created than deliveries actually
> completed. In some cases, a new "E" order might be created after the
> order was in process, usually due to a major specification change. I
> have copies of "E" orders for BN GP49 "B" units that were bid in
> competition to GE's bid for the B30-7A units built in the early '80s.
>
> In some cases, several "E" orders are taken out initially and then
> later consolidated as the order nears finalization. Sometimes, more
> than one model was bid and the customer only chose one because that is
> all they ever wanted. So some of the "E" orders that you are reviewing
> may have been created knowing full well that not all would become an
> order. Cancellation is only one possibility, and of course, some orders
> were cancelled.
>
> Bill Barber
>
> On Thursday, May 1, 2003, at 07:46 AM, BRHSlist@yahoogroups.com wrote:
>
> > Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 10:29:20 -0500
> > From: "Russell Strodtz" <vlbg@e...>
> > Subject: CB&Q Cancelled Orders
> >
> > Was working on some records and thought I'd pass this along.
> > CB&Q cancelled a number of locomotive orders. These B/N's
> > were not re-used. Dates are based on where these units would
> > have fitted in with units actually built.
> >
> > NW2's E565 1 thru 15 B/N 2160-2174 ca 1944.
> > E7A's E646 A11 thru A15 and B11 thru B15 B/N 2958-2967,
> > ca 1945. (1 thru 10 A & B were actually built).
> > NW2's E647 1 thru 50 B/N 2968-3017 ca 1945.
> > FT's E648 42 units, configuration unknown, B/N 3028-3069,
> > ca 1945. (As actually built this ended up as a 10 unit
> > F2A order so in reality this was a 52 unit order).
> >
> > Russ
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