-- Thomas Kaufman <elmer53@y...> wrote:
>
> --- Chris Guss <cmguss@a...> wrote:
> > Although I'm not a paranoid type of guy, a rather odd request
recently
> > caught my eye that was posted to two lists in which I'm a member
of
> (The
> > StLouisRailfans and IlliniRail lists) from the same mystery
person.
> Here
> > is
> > the e-mail from the IlliniRail list from February 5th:
> >
> >
> > ---------------------
> > From: "demons1984 <tscot@c...>" <tscot@c...>
> > Date: Wed Feb 5, 2003 4:00 pm
> > Subject: train symbol questions?
> >
> >
> > Does anybody know the train symbols for the
> > yard & transfer jobs,used by BNSF,CSX,
> > NS & UP,in Chicago?
> > ---------------------
> >
> >
> >
> > And here is the request posted to the St. Louis list just today:
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: demons1984 <tscot@c...>
> > > [mailto:tscot@c...]
> > > Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 1:13 PM
> > > To: StLouisRailfans@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [StLouisRailfans] Train Symbols
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi,I'm new to this group. I was wondering
> > > if anybody knew the train symbols the BNSF,UP
> > > & NS,use for their yard jobs & transfers in
> > > St.Louis?
> > >
> > > Also,what are the names of the railyards used
> > > by the railroads above,& what are their
> > > locations? Thank You
> >
> >
> >
> > And, out of curiosity I joined the Kansascityrailfans list on
Yahoo to
> > see
> > if demons1984 was three for three on requesting the same
information
> on
> > the
> > three major rail hubs in the United States and guess what, I was
> > right!!!
> > Here is his post to the Kansas City list from this morning:
> >
> > -----------------------
> > From: "demons1984 <tscot@c...>" <tscot@c...>
> > Date: Mon Feb 17, 2003 9:30 am
> > Subject: Train Symbols
> >
> >
> > Hi I'm new to this group and wonder if
> > anybody knows the train symbols BNSF,UP
> > KCS & NS use for the yard jobs & transfers
> > in KC?
> >
> > Also what are the names of the railyards
> > used by the railroads above,& where are they
> > located? Thank you
> > ------------------------
> >
> >
> >
> > The first thing that caught my eye was that the person did not
sign
> > their
> > name to the e-mails (a pet-peeve of mine). The second thing is
that he
> > made
> > the same rather strange request for a large amount of general
> > information on
> > several railroads.
> >
> > Either "demonds1984" has just become a railfan and/or has alot of
> > catching
> > up to do in his quest to chase yard jobs and transfers, or there
is
> > something else going on here. Perhaps an e-mail
from "demonds1984" to
> > these
> > three lists explaining his large request for info would help
explain
> my
> > curiosity regarding the matter.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > Chris Guss
> >
> >
> > The Home Page for the St.Louis Area Railfans List is at:
> > www.yahoogroups.com/group/StLouisRailfans/
> >
> > St.Louis The Gateway To The West
> >
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> >
> >
> >
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> >
> > Chris:
>
> This is a WARNING to any unsuspecting railfan on any railfan site!
> Remember our country is in high terrorist alert status at the
moment,
> and
> there are known terrorist cells operating in this country. I am ex
> military and a ex railroader and railfan, and I also know railfans
of
> any
> type are really being scrutinized in their activities, lately. After
> 09/11/2001, the terrorists had threatened transportation and water
ways
> sites, and specifically targeted railroads. If you do not
specifically
> know the person you are dealing with, no news is good news. There
is no
> reason for anyone to have to know specific locations of yards and
> terminals in the midwest. Anyhow, if they did have the information,
both
> railroad and local law enforcement wouldn't let him/her get near any
> locations. Let's play it smart and dry up any possible giving away
> sensitive information that could harm our tense association with the
> railroads, because if it could be proven that a railfan gave any
> information that ended up being used in a terrorist attack, we will
> never
> get an opportunity to photograph, and or get to talk to friendly
> railroaders ever again. Take a moment and consider the final
outcome! I
> don't want to add to the paronoia, but this seems to be a serious
breach
> of information with possibly serious consequences.
> elmer
>
>
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